OMG, you are in my head.I love Bluce, and I just got off the phone with him...and I have to stick with Ape on this particular thread.
OMG, you are in my head.
For the record, we didn't get on the phone to discuss Dexter.
For the record, we didn't get on the phone to discuss Dexter.
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Ah, phone sex, got it.
Seriously? Seriously??? This is the kind of shit you use to defend your argument???
And then there's this definition which pretty much includes anyone you want to pigeon hole into it:
Quite simply, to claim that surgeons and CEO's are psychopaths because some of them have some of these traits is laughable.
Oh, but wait, I'm not done yet! Let's take a look at another snippet from your list of references to bolster your position. This is a good one because the list includes you, Bluce, under the heading of psychopath:
Seriously? You want us to take this seriously??? This is your proof that I'm using the term "psychopath" incorrectly??? LOL!
Um, yeah, okay, we'll use your list here. And just for full disclosure not only do you, Bluce, fall under the heading of psychopath but so do I and so does my entire family and almost everyone I know. It also covers a pretty good chunk of the members of this very forum and many in their families too. So, yeah, we're all psychopaths.
Nah, he Speedo skypes with me.
Ah, phone sex, got it.
They're not complete psychopaths as they do have emotions tied to morals. However, a surgeon can lose a patient on the operating table and feel little to no empathy. A CEO can feel no empathy throwing out 10,000 employees to save on the bottom line and his/her bonus without batting an eye. Some soldiers on the battlefield can take lives without suffering any sort of PTSD or remorse. That takes a certain amount of psychopathy.
One can acquire psychopathic traits through desensitization.
I'm starting to wonder if we're having two different conversations here. I didn't claim Dexter is a great guy to hang with or that he's a model of society. He is what he is, a serial killer with an uncontrollable urge to kill. That doesn't make the show and its stories any less brilliant.
Still trying to figure out what you're getting at here. There are varying levels of psychopathy and not all of them are demented (or relating to dementia).
Psychopathy is more complicated than simply a mental illness.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mindmelding/201301/what-is-psychopath-0
You'll notice these traits are very similar to what one would expect from special forces or secret service. Some traits can be acquired but some of these jobs have very rigorous and extensive psychological profiles performed on their applicants to determine predisposition.
What position am I defending? I said I like the show and that's it. I'm not trying to convince you to watch it based on some delusion I have. Now we've drifted into the subject of psychopathy and what defines a psychopath.
I'll try to pare it down to the bare bones because I'm tired. )
Christ on a cross, you don't make this shit easy. It's like you've dumped the contents of your briefcase all over the parking lot on a windy day and now expect me to run and collect the scattered pieces.
Needless to say the wedding is off and good luck getting the deposit back on the cute little Vera Wang number you were planning to wear.
Ape said:Needless to say the wedding is off and good luck getting the deposit back on the cute little Vera Wang number you were planning to wear.
Bluce said:Pfff. You wouldn't have survived the wedding night.
Blah blah blah blah blah blah poop blah blah...
I have tried to in a few threads. Obviously, a wasted effort.
Really? Where?
Blah blah blah blah bluh -- bluh bluh bluh *fart* blah. Blah blah blah. Bluh bluh ung! Blah blah blah blah...
Yes, of course. Selling books. The fact you can say that about all of medicine is irrelevant, though, right? Let's do away with medicine because it's all quackery to sell books and acquire the glory and prestige of being published in medical journals.
I suppose I could link you Scientific American, BBC, and whatever else that you wouldn't consider a "rag" but that would be a wasted effort. It's hard to get through someone when they're all ...
I never said anything about doing away with medicine and books. I said the sources you cited were essentially pop psychology that had little basis in official mental health medical journals. They were your sources and were the best you could come up with to prove some inane point that we're all psychopaths. Unfortunately those citations weren't good enough. If you expect me, or anyone, to believe that the "psychopath career list" is actually peer reviewed and officially sanctioned then you've got your work cut out for you.
Quite simply there's no way the AMA and/or its attending psychology arm would sanction such a blanket diagnosis of psychopathology. That's because it's a list made up by a pop psychologist, both of which, the list and the pop psychologist, are ridiculous and lend no support to your argument. Here's the list again just to refresh your memory of how laughable it truly is:
Pfff. You wouldn't have survived the wedding night.
Meh, the marriage wouldn't have been sanctioned anyway as my groin hosts the "member" of a particularly large stallion and the state would consider what I would do to you on our wedding night to be bestiality -- and quite possibly murder as you'd no doubt bleed out in the heart shaped bed in our honeymoon suite shortly after the commencement of our first bout of coitus. But then again, since it's been established by your handy lil' list that I'm a psychopath the blood and screaming probably wouldn't bother me one way or the other, go figure.
