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Okay, I have gone to the theater and, in a rather more crowded theater that I expected, seen Star Trek Beyond. I am going to try to present my thought here is a semi-organized manner.

What Star Trek Beyond got right (lead with the positive):

First, it is a MUCH more coherent and logical story than its predecessor (Star Trek Into Darkness). For once, it was not an Earth centered story and never involved a threat to Earth. It also did not have unexplained story elements and did not feel like an episode of Lost. The story is pretty straightforward and unfolds logically. It has a couple of surprise revelations as it goes on but NONE of them are the kind of nonsensical name dropping (like Khan) that sank Into Darkness – here they make sense in the context of the story.

Second, I liked the much reduced amount of “fan callbacks”. Really there was just a very well played small tribute to the passing of Leonard Nimoy in the form of having Spock Prime pass away, and two or three minor name drops of alien races that had been encountered in the past.

Third, the portrayals by the cast this time out were WAY improved. The characters felt more like their actual Trek counterparts than really they have in any of these films. In particular, Kirk came off as much more mature and was believable as a Captain. Also Spock was much more Vulcan like this time out, and Bones as usual was so on it was spooky (Karl Urban has managed in all three films to feel like he was channeling DeForrest Kelley). Sulu was Sulu. Uhura and Chekov I will speak about later.

Fourth, this movie actually felt more like a Trek series two-parter than any of the Trek films. It had the quiet moments, which to me were where it did the best, and the alien girl they encounter is played well and she was a highlight of the film (and no, she did not hook up with Kirk).

I think this is the place to talk about the motorbike, and by extension the USS Franklin. The motorbike was aboard the Franklin, which was...
So I thought I dedicate a thread towards the new series. New news just came out of how the Starship might look like. I for one don't like the color. I can't view the video because the video is blocked here

It's called the USS Discovery - NCC-1031

Also worth noting
- See more at: http://www.startrek.com/article/introducing-the-u-s-s-discovery#sthash.2q9foodi.dpuf

Okay this looks extremely low budget. Is this a fucking joke? This looks like a fanmade budget production. I have seen better CGI with the fanmade films than this.
JJ Abrams and Co has decided to make Hikaru Sulu come out as gay in Star Trek :Beyond.

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-36744328

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:facepalm: JJ Abrams does not get Star Trek for one simple reason: his focus is on CHARACTERS and PEOPLE instead of CONCEPT and SCIENCE. Star Trek never needed to reboot the original characters from TOS. Star Trek was never centered around the characters. It was always about the Trek across the stars, the science and the journeys. It's foundations in the Federation and the battles and politics between factions. That is why there could be a Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager and Enterprise. All different characters and new crews. Deep Space Nine took place on a Cardassian space station, and yet was quintessentially Star Trek.

Star Wars is all about the characters. Every nuance, every word and action happens because of an individual character in Star Wars. The handful of individuals carries the entire saga from the original movie to the prequels to the latest Star Wars movies. It's simple and easy. Star Trek is not so easy. It is NOT about only the characters. The new Star Trek series coming out on CBS All Access wont have a Kirk or a Spock, and it does not need them. But we shall see.

So, why is it a bad thing that NuSulu is gay? Why does George Takei disapprove? It's because Hikaru Sulu is STRAIGHT. Only George Takei is gay, and this twist for NuSulu is meant to be a tribute to George Takei and ignores the concept and persona of Hikaru Sulu. Once again, JJ Abrams and Co have focused...
http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2016/06/29/lost-in-space-reboot-ordered-to-series-at-netflix/

10 episode series order with Zack Estrin as the showrunner. Normally I would be cynical in my prediction for this but it's being done by Netflix so who knows how it will turn out. I'm looking forward to seeing how they handle the character of Dr. Smith. He was such a campy, mincing queen that anything less will be a let down. :icon_lol:
Alec Peters is off the hook



In the most unlikely of events, the lawsuit from Paramount against Axanar is "going away":

http://io9.gizmodo.com/paramounts-lawsuit-against-axanar-productions-star-trek-1777959978

Excerpt from article:

try number 2

no BEASTIES but we still got the dirt bike

Let's get it right out there: This was a good movie! It's not deep, not particularly intellectual, and as superhero movies go, it was not overdone (glaring at you, Batman vs Superman and Transformers). This is actually an Avengers movie with Cap's name on it as a headliner. The movie is actually quite political as far as action flicks go. I won't go too much into that to avoid spoilers. :)



This movie opens in a flashback to 1991, when the Winter Soldier(s) are first created and activated. We see Bucky going through the painful process of Winter Soldier transformation, and we get a backstory about how Hydra created these Winter Soldiers and why. Flash forward, and we are witness to a terrorist attack which summons the Avengers. In this movie (only these, no Hulk):

Captain America
Black Widow
Scarlet Witch
Iron Man/Tony Stark
Hawkeye
Ant Man
Black Panther
Spiderman
Falcon
Winter Soldier
Iron Man/Rhodes

Black Panther is a new addition to the franchise, and he is BAD ASS. He appears to be as strong or stronger than Bucky (Winter Soldier), and has some interesting powers. I'll let the movie introduce him properly. And a pleasant surprise is FINALLY a great Spiderman who better fills the role as laid out in the comics. He is a teen, like he is supposed to be, and without any girlfriend baggage in this movie. And he is super BAD ASS. He and Stark have great chemistry in this film. BTW, this is the most thoughtful Tony Stark ever portrayed in these Marvel films. Robert Downey Jr has made this his, and he has fleshed out the role like nobody else really could at this point. He can grow old doing this.

The story behind this movie is political. Not subtle either. It is at the center of the "civil war" (which is fought between these Avenger superheroes). Again, I cannot give details without spoiling it, but it does not bog down the film and gives things a twist. I do find it more interesting than bringing...
Wow. Remember this kid?


That is Jake Lloyd as a kid, playing the young Anakin Skywalker in The Phantom Menace. Cute kid, full of life and a path to greatness just by being in Star Wars. This is him today:

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http://www.techtimes.com/articles/1...in-skywalker-goes-star-wars-schizophrenia.htm

He evidently has been diagnosed with schizophrenia:

His so-called fall could rival even that of his on-screen character, Anakin Skywalker. However, the true story of child star, Jake Lloyd's post-Star Wars life may also have a glimmer of hope as he has been officially diagnosed with schizophrenia and will get appropriate treatment after spending ten months in prison.

Last year, Lloyd made headlines after he was involved in a high-speed chase with police that ended with him crashing into a tree. He was arrested on June 15, 2015.

The mother of the 27-year-old actor maintained that his reckless behavior was due to a mental condition he was not taking his drugs for. She even admitted that he had previously tried to attack her when he skipped taking his medication, but she chose not to press charges.

He was involved in a high speed car chase with police:

The Star Trek prime universe timeline can't really go much past Voyager without becoming silly and implausible. Why? Well, there are several reasons, I think.

Starfleet technology is now too godlike.

Admiral Janeway has given the Federation transphasic torpedoes, ablative armor, Borg nanoprobes (and the knowledge of the Borg amassed by Seven of Nine). The Borg are no longer a threat because they no longer have a transwarp network.

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Seven of Nine

Seven of Nine is likely the smartest human in the Federation. Smarter than Doctor Bashir, the Augment even. Her Borg implants (Borg shields, cortical processor, nanoprobes) give the Federation some easily weaponized technology making them almost invulnerable. I wish she could really do this...

Overuse of the time travel trope, making it part of Starfleet technology.

In two episodes of Voyager, we had the time travel trope used. Once to have an excuse to bring a "mobile emitter" into existence in order to allow the Doctor to leave Sick Bay, and again to stop Captain Braxton from changing history in the episode "Relativity". Actually, there was a third time, which was used to trope Voyager all the way home using future technology.

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The Doctor

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I liked the Doctor character, Robert Picardo. His personality made him a fun character to watch. But let's face it...the concept of him was silly, even given the already silly holodeck technology. Too many logical paths get broken trying to suspend belief. A sentient program created by a non-sentient computer, and processed and projected via "holo-emitters" which give him enough substance to hold things, to punch people and to (evidently) have sex...this is also done by that holo emitter? :) Mkay.

So, as you can see, we cannot really venture past the Voyager Engdame period because it gets too silly and too many things change. Think...
Here is the Rogue One Official Teaser Trailer. It looks most definitely Star Wars, but the casting and feel is very Twilight-ish IMO.



For those who do not already know, Rogue One slots in between Episode III and Episode IV, and in the trailer we see the parabolic lens being installed on the Death Star (the one destroyed in Episode IV). There is the new look from The Force Awakens, and also a whole new set of characters. This is the Star Wars timeline:
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