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OMG Star Trek Discovery sucks harder than a supermassive black hole. I am fresh off watching the premiere episode of Discovery and I am disgusted, appalled, and angry that Paramount/CBS allowed this to be produced. First things first: This is a personal opinion, coming from somebody who has been an avid Star Trek fan since 1966 when it was new on television. I have been an avid van through the hiatus between TOS and Star Trek The Motion Picture, then through TNG and all the other movies, DS9, Voyager and Enterprise. And yes, the Animated Series. I have attended several Star Trek conventions (never in costume though). I have managed to meet every TOS character actor in person, and I even lived with one of the iconic female actresses from the show, and to this day I have her adopted cat living with me in my home. I have watched all of the Abrams "Kelvinverse" movies, and now Discovery. Having said that, now I say this:

Star Trek Discovery SUCKS
Racism in Discovery? Somebody not that intelligent decided to bring the 19th century idea of "race" into this show. First, with the Klingons saying something about the color of the skin being something relevant in the Klingon culture, then again when some unnamed Admiral from Starfleet directing a race-related comment at Michael in the Captain's ready room. This is Star Trek, and by the 23rd century, such commentary is not at all relevant or useful. This is the fault of a writer unable to understand the Trek universe and what it became after WWIII.

Trek Disconnect. The show begins with disconnected graphics barely worthy of a cartoon or live action comic book show. The music is orchestral, but does not convey any sort of wonder or excitement because of the dumb graphics playing in the background. The babbling on the surface of a desert planet, talk of getting stranded on the surface because of a storm, and an aweigh team consisting of ONLY the Captain...

Google deserves it's own forum here. It has taken me literally years to finally get what they are trying to do with their product, because they are simply putting the product elements on the table and hoping you will take the time to sample all of the delicious little plates of goodies and help them to see what people like and will use on a regular basis so that it can be monetized later. But this is not a malicious act! Google truly wants it to be a win/win.

Let me start by saying that I have been a paying Google Apps for Business user for several years now. I pay about $5.00/mo for one user, and strangely enough, Google sometimes refunds me half of that at random times, charging me only about $2.50. I'm not complaining!

For that, I get a complete browser based Office (Docs, Sheets, Slides), and a cloud based 30GB hard drive (Google Drive). I can use 100% of this from my phone, tablet, or any computer that can run a Google web browser, no matter if it is a Mac, Linux or anything in-between. And you can do pretty much anything you can do in MS Office, and even save your Docs in Word format, Sheets in Excel format and Slides in Powerpoint format. You can also upload documents in those formats and edit them in full 100% compatibility online and then save them back to your hard drive or in your Google Drive space. It is all really quite seamless.

Then, there is also Gmail which...

If they keep the same mood and feel that the first film had this could be good.
Carrie Fisher who is most famous for playing Princess leia in Star Wars is dead at age 60. She was flying to Los Angeles from London, and had a heart attack and never recovered.


If any characters in any film could never be replaced by another, Princess Leia was one of them. You will be missed Carrie Fisher, may the Force be with you!
Okay, I have gone to the theater and, in a rather more crowded theater that I expected, seen Star Trek Beyond. I am going to try to present my thought here is a semi-organized manner.

What Star Trek Beyond got right (lead with the positive):

First, it is a MUCH more coherent and logical story than its predecessor (Star Trek Into Darkness). For once, it was not an Earth centered story and never involved a threat to Earth. It also did not have unexplained story elements and did not feel like an episode of Lost. The story is pretty straightforward and unfolds logically. It has a couple of surprise revelations as it goes on but NONE of them are the kind of nonsensical name dropping (like Khan) that sank Into Darkness – here they make sense in the context of the story.

Second, I liked the much reduced amount of “fan callbacks”. Really there was just a very well played small tribute to the passing of Leonard Nimoy in the form of having Spock Prime pass away, and two or three minor name drops of alien races that had been encountered in the past.

Third, the portrayals by the cast this time out were WAY improved. The characters felt more like their actual Trek counterparts than really they have in any of these films. In particular, Kirk came off as much more mature and was believable as a Captain. Also Spock was much more Vulcan like this time out, and Bones as usual was so on it was spooky (Karl Urban has managed in all three films to feel like he was channeling DeForrest Kelley). Sulu was Sulu. Uhura and Chekov I will speak about later.

Fourth, this movie actually felt more like a Trek series two-parter than any of the Trek films. It had the quiet moments, which to me were where it did the best, and the alien girl they encounter is played well and she was a highlight of the film (and no, she did not hook up with Kirk).

I think this is the place to talk about the motorbike, and by extension the USS Franklin. The motorbike was aboard the Franklin, which was...
So I thought I dedicate a thread towards the new series. New news just came out of how the Starship might look like. I for one don't like the color. I can't view the video because the video is blocked here

It's called the USS Discovery - NCC-1031

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Okay this looks extremely low budget. Is this a fucking joke? This looks like a fanmade budget production. I have seen better CGI with the fanmade films than this.
JJ Abrams and Co has decided to make Hikaru Sulu come out as gay in Star Trek :Beyond.

:facepalm: JJ Abrams does not get Star Trek for one simple reason: his focus is on CHARACTERS and PEOPLE instead of CONCEPT and SCIENCE. Star Trek never needed to reboot the original characters from TOS. Star Trek was never centered around the characters. It was always about the Trek across the stars, the science and the journeys. It's foundations in the Federation and the battles and politics between factions. That is why there could be a Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager and Enterprise. All different characters and new crews. Deep Space Nine took place on a Cardassian space station, and yet was quintessentially Star Trek.

Star Wars is all about the characters. Every nuance, every word and action happens because of an individual character in Star Wars. The handful of individuals carries the entire saga from the original movie to the prequels to the latest Star Wars movies. It's simple and easy. Star Trek is not so easy. It is NOT about only the characters. The new Star Trek series coming out on CBS All Access wont have a Kirk or a Spock, and it does not need them. But we shall see.

So, why is it a bad thing that NuSulu is gay? Why does George Takei disapprove? It's because Hikaru Sulu is STRAIGHT. Only George Takei is gay, and this twist for NuSulu is meant to be a tribute to George Takei and ignores the concept and persona of Hikaru Sulu. Once again, JJ Abrams and Co have focused...

10 episode series order with Zack Estrin as the showrunner. Normally I would be cynical in my prediction for this but it's being done by Netflix so who knows how it will turn out. I'm looking forward to seeing how they handle the character of Dr. Smith. He was such a campy, mincing queen that anything less will be a let down. :icon_lol:
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