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The Adama Dossier From "Hero"… Part One.
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Welcome to the world of
Blood and
Chrome where we have just entered the tenth year of the First Cylon War. As there were 3,285 days in the previous 9 years, that means we have at least 1,286 days to come of pew-pew, pow-pow, or maybe a whole lot of measured silliness that the world has never seen before. By the looks of it there is a possibility that Syfy has found a partner in Machinima Prime to help shoulder the costs of any future possible Blood and Chrome episodes.
Adama reporting to the Galactica: Aged 20 years. Blue eyes and natural Tauron skin colour.
Some kind and generous people are still clicking away. As of May 7th, 2014 the views have increased to 5,776. For some reason the views have inexplicably increased to 5,912 by July 17th, 2014. As of January 1st, 2015 to more than 6,324 views.
From the original post #1 of the thread: “William 'Husker' Adama – The Early Years.”
( “ … They were showing an abridged version of Bill Adama's Record of Service on the Battlestar Wiki site: I have transcribed the following from his dossier and have edited in any information that has been perused from historical documents. Most information that may be relevant to his past 'Blood and Chrome' missions are shown below.
The following is dedicated to the person who will eventually play 'Bill 'Husker' Adama. In case the writers have forgotten to tell that person when Bill was born or in what past capacities that he served in the military. If you read the following remember that these dates are either good or bad and take place within 5 years time of the actual events. If there are any wildly placed time lines give me a shout and I will correct them …)
Originally I thought that Bill Adama had actually prepared this dossier by himself, seen during the telecast of episode “
Hero”(Third Season: Episode # 8.) The original screen-cap was shared with us by poster
Alliveevertouched, after I mentioned reading an abridged version of what you see over on the BattleWiki site. The picture was subsequently cleaned-up by
WayneHurlburt.
As the following information is based on a 150,000 year-old document there is room to play fast and loose with the information that we don’t visually see inside it. With the completion of Blood and Chrome, Luke Pasqualino has officially supplanted Nico Cortez as the younger version of Bill Adama.
According to Moore’s vision he has suggested that all Capricans speak a form of English that most of us recognize and that the Caprican calendar consists of 365 days.
Epilogue: This is not a Quinn Martin Production. The original name for this thread was called: Bill "Husker" Adama - The Early Years. That was way back when the Post count was still 81 but the views had increased to 3,302.
The following is my interpretation of the information gleaned from the front page of a semi-military document that was probably prepared by
Billy Keikeya and was then presented to
Laura Roslin when she first came to the de-commissioning ceremony of the Battle Star Galactica.
The dossier simply states that William ‘Bill’ Adama will be born on day H5 in the year 21-290. At least Sixty-two years Before the Cylon Holocaust. He will be born naturally( not adopted) to his parents. Mother
Evelyn ( occupation: Accountant) and Father
Joseph ( occupation: Criminal Defense and Civil Liberties Lawyer).
I think with the ending of Caprica that they are more than suggesting that the years separating the birth of Willie and Bill Adama should amount to no more than 11 or 12 years, and definitely no more than 13 as it appears that Evelyn and Joseph have settled down into sweet marriage during the pre-war years.
H5/21-290 – William “Bill” Adama is born as few as 58 years to as many as 63 years before the Holocaust. Born in a coastal town called Qualai, on the planet Caprica. ( It is more likely that he will be 62 years of age during the on-set of the Holocaust which takes place in the year 21-352.)
During the years 21300-301 - Cylon forces are found to be rebelling through-out some of the Colonies. Violence seems to be spreading everywhere. (Due to technological advantages of the enemy this war will continue for at least 4,571 days or 12.5 years. In a matter of 23 years the Cylons of Caprica move from being basically ‘bowling pins’ to commanding and designing Base Stars. There has to be some sort of direct intervention that we do not know about at this time.)
During the years, 21-300-through 21-302 - All Colonial forces, both military and political, have banned together to defeat the common enemy.
During the year 21-306 – William (Bill) Adama will attain the age of 16, during which the 6th year of war would have passed. In the original BSG bible it was suggested that he joined the Colonial Marines at this time. Moore suggested Adama joined-up on the very first day of hostilities when he was approximately 16 years of age. If that was true then we would be seeing a
Bill “Husker” Adama, aged 26, during the tenth year of war. While in Blood and Chrome it is suggested that he entered an Aviation School after graduating from high school.
During the year 21-307 – At some point William(Bill) Adama must have applied and was given permission to either join the Marines, or it seems more logical now, that he must of joined the Aviation Service of Caprica and started some sort of training, aged 17 thru 19.
During the year 21309 - 310 - He successfully completes his military training which will allow him to specialize in the Raptor and Viper aviation fields, aged 19/ 20. It is definitely stated by Silas Nash that he joins the Galactica in the fight against the Cylons during the tenth year of war.
During day D6 of the year 21-311 - He joins a Battle Star Galactica Fighter Squadron(call name:Husker), after receiving his first Commission, aged 21 or above.
During day E4 of the year 21-312 – During the final day of combat he is awarded a Commendation for shooting down a Cylon fighter in his first official Viper combat flying mission, aged 22 or above.
Thus after signing the treaty the Cylons disappear
for Forty years only to reappear, which in my mind, is in the year
(C2) 21-352.
D5/21-314 - He is mustered out of service due to the Armistice, aged 24. (Separation of Adama from the Forces.)
Very little of the above was discussed during the 'Blood and Chrome' TV pilot. They did have William Adama recite a letter from his father Joseph, while Bekka mentioned being employed by the Greystone Corporation. We will leave the remaining few paragraphs for another day, as most of the information is shown in several other replies; plus or minus information surrounding Bill Adama’s time when he rejoined the Galactica and when the onset of the 2nd Cylon War takes place.
( Moore’s the pity:
I moved the following few paragraphs from page 1 thinking that Blood and Chrome would advance the mythology of the BSG. Unfortunately nary a word, or phrase, or image was given to us that would quench a simple thirst and advance BSG mythology in any way. Unless of course coming to the realization that Adama’s skin problem was not a natural problem, but was created as a result of some sort of frostbite was a major help.
I anticipated that at a certain time he would eventually join the Special Forces; but at twenty years of age? Come on! It comes as no surprise that a ‘little dirt eater’ would end up with a kinder nickname such as “Husker”.
So here they are the last few paragraphs that were deleted from the opening page of Bill “Husker” Adama – The Early Years.)
From this point there is a three year gap in his Service Record. Due to loss of official records it seems most likely that this information may never be able to be searched out. During this 3 year gap there is no evidence to suggest that he participated in any military campaigns or ‘black ops’ projects.
R6/21-317 - Served 14 years in the Merchant Fleet as a common sailor aboard Colony freighters. (There is a slight controversy built around his service record. Apparently he has served at least 45 years in the military. Are they including the 14 years he spent in the Merchant Marine? Yes!
Or did they celebrate his 45th year since his first Commission(21-356, aged 66)?
XX/21-321 - Lee(Leeland) Adama is born. (Questionable: Should marriage and Zak's birth be mentioned here?)
D1/21-331 - Received his second Commission to the (Active) Fleet, duties ?, aged 41.(Did this occur due to depletion of the ranks, or was it due to family connections?)
D6/21-337 - Became a Major of the Battlestar Atlantia, duties ?, aged 47.
It has been mentioned by BattleWiki that Adama successfully recorded his 1,000th Viper flight on Atlantia leading to him becoming a Major there; suggesting he was still in the Flight Arm of the Service. ( “Act of Contrition”: Season 1, Episode # 4.)
R8/21-341 - Became an Executive Officer of the Battlestar Columbia, aged 51.
C2/21-345 - Became the Commander of the Battlestar Valkyrie, aged 55.
( Just as an after thought. )
During day C2 of year 21-345 – Bill Adama assumed command of the Battle Star Valkyrie, most likely. During day C2 of year 21-348 - Bill Adama assumed command of an unknown Battle Star, most likely the Galactica.
If this is a rotation pattern, did we miss the part where Adama might of been the Commander of a Battle Star unknown to us and that most logically he took over command of the Galactica on C2/21-351. Delaying the Holocaust by three years?
C2/21-348 - Became the Commander of the Battlestar Galactica, aged 58.
XX/21-352- Cylons attack all 12 Colonies, aged 62. The Cylons have reappeared after 40 years with deadly results.
XX/21-35X- Became Admiral of the known Fleet, ceremonial role, aged **
XX/21-355- After crossing the Universe and escorting the remnants of the Colonies to Earth 2 he retires from active duty, aged 65/ 66 / 67?
From here his dossier is not clear enough to vehemently suggest what happened five years before the Second Cylon War. The word conjecture describes the final few lines that we can visually see from his dossier as taken from the BSG episode “Hero”. (Third Season: Episode # 8.)
In my mind at least there is enough evidence to hint that Bill Adama was commanding the Battle Star Galactica for at least 3 years before the Holocaust. Quite possibly, Adama being the warrior he was, might of considered this a demotion in taking command of an aging rust-bucket.
It is surprising to note that by time the events of Blood and Chrome come to its conclusion, the Caprican calendar will of recorded 21,312 years of history. If we deduct the year of Bill Adama’s birth, 21-290, we will be left with the number ‘22’. That means ‘Husker’ can be no older than 23 when Blood and Chrome comes to its conclusion.
So far we don’t know in what year the war will actually break out. As 4,571 days breaks down to about 12 years and six months I can see how the war could be spread out over 14 years.
The above is all my conjecture. So far I seem to be a little right. They have replaced a 28 year old Adama with a much younger version, aged 20 or above.
I should not say this is funny but all this arguing about Adama’s age was created when we were trying to figure out just how could Adama have a military record spanning some 45 years when he was at most 65 years.
(Even though this dossier is not canon to Caprica and the BSG Universe it will be interesting to see what kind of affects if any it will have on Blood and Chrome. At this time the writers of the 'Blood and Chrome' have not clarified in which years that Bill ‘Husker’ Adama attended ‘Aviation School’.)
This mess all started several years back when I came across these few lines over on the Battle Star Wiki site. Since then this part of their world has been vastly improved mentioning Adama’s birth parents by name as well as their business occupations; date and place of birth for Bill Adama, so on and so on.
* D6/21311 - First commission: battlestar Galactica fighter squadron
* E4/21312 - Commendation for shooting down Cylon fighter in first combat mission
* D5/21314 - Mustered out of service post-armistice
* R6/21317 - Served as deckhand in merchant fleet and as a common [ a sailor] aboard inter-colony tramp freighters
* D1/21331 - Recommissioned to Fleet
* D6/21337 - Major: battlestar Atlantia
* R8/21341 - Executive Officer: battlestar Columbia
* C2/21345 - Commander: battlestar Valkyrie
* C2/21348 - Commander: battlestar Galactica
"Ensign William Adama, barely in his 20's and a recent Academy graduate, finds himself assigned to the newest battlestar in the Colonial fleet ... the Galactica. The talented but hot-headed risk-taker soon finds himself leading a dangerous top secret mission that, if successful, will turn the tide of the decade long war in favor of the desperate fleet."( Possibly spoken by David Eick: Circa October 22nd, 2010.)
I couldn't have said it better.
So do not forget that the creators of this modern day Battle Star show reserve the right to "fine-tune" their previous works so that the mythology of all three shows match up. After all I don't think the dossier we see is actually canon to the show.
"Galactica! May the Gods protect you and all those who serve upon her."
A little bit late, at least I remembered something: Here we have the last of the SyFy files that I appropriated from their site.
"The BSG Forum Time Capsule", as it was originally meant to be. From March 2009. Please enjoy in around 10 to twenty years.
The BSG Forum Time Capsule - Circa March 2009.pdf