Dean Devlin talks gate

[Overmind One]

I think I understand where you're coming from here. I, too, would be more than happy with a Devlin movie that had absolutely zero reference to the TV shows. I really don't see a need for connecting them or even giving the TV shows a nod of recognition. In fact I suspect that Devlin would write in a joke or two insulting the series -- something about having snakes in the head or the like.

At any rate, I think a Devlin movie would be kick ass and I, for one, would have absolutely no problem separating his version of the concept from anyone else's. And really, what Stargate/sci-fi fan isn't going to see the movie? It's Stargate. It's sci-fi. It's a no-brainer.

Yep, he would do something like that . But its no secret that he didnt like any of the TV series. Im very okay with him not acknowledging the series canon. We have 15 years of DVDs to watch that Stargate, but the movie Stargate for me will always be the REAL Stargate, even though SG-1 and Atlantis kept the pace and style of the show. The movie was darker than any of the series. I dont count SGU as Stargate at all.

 

[OMNI]

Yep, he would do something like that . But its no secret that he didnt like any of the TV series. Im very okay with him not acknowledging the series canon. We have 15 years of DVDs to watch that Stargate, but the movie Stargate for me will always be the REAL Stargate, even though SG-1 and Atlantis kept the pace and style of the show. The movie was darker than any of the series. I dont count SGU as Stargate at all.

sames.

and yes a hell of a lot darker and scarier and also a hellova lot more EPIC.

and i dont considder either series "Stargate" i considder them a cheap knock off that had some potential but as it was made for tv it got squandered and never became the epic saga it in my mind deserved to be.

 

[Overmind One]

You can facepalm all you like, my opinion is just as valid as yours. Devlin more than likely won't acknowledge any other forms of Stargate, am I going to lose sleep over it and cry into my pillow? Hell-to-the-no.

Secondly, what impression does it give when he just goes off, does his thing without acknowledgement of other forms of Stargate? That he's still displeased?

*Loud demonic voice* "I'm angry and I'm as mad as hell, that someone would tarnish our original movie with such TV rubbish - RAWR!!! *Ground shakes* Bow down to me now - RAWR! You will like this Stargate, I don't give a fuck about the TV series- RAWRRR!"

What a turn off.

Yeah, he hated the series. It could even be the producers he took issue with, particularly Brad Wright who obviously took pleasure in Devlin's distress.

 

[Tropicana]

Yeah, he hated the series. It could even be the producers he took issue with, particularly Brad Wright who obviously took pleasure in Devlin's distress.

Oh I know he hated the series, he made that abundantly clear. However, BW is down. Cancellation bear has mauled him good, so Devlin has a chance now, to put all that distress behind him, get up and move on. Get over it I say.

 

[Overmind One]

Oh I know he hated the series, he made that abundantly clear. However, BW is down. Cancellation bear has mauled him, so now Devlin has a chance now, to put all that distress behind him, get up and move on. Get over it I say.

I agree. I think he should just do his movies and not diss the series. I can see him throwing in zingers sorta like in Sanctuary where the room with the initials JM were on the door and the werewolf killed him. Brad Wright taunted Devlin with his control of the series. I think that new movies will be great! It can be a jumping off point for new series.

 

[OMNI]

wha wha wha buhuhuh squeedrones all upset that Mr devlin might diss their precious (crappy) series....

 

[Tropicana]

And you want to destroy 15 years of fandom to appease 2 hrs worth of film. Unlike you, I rather leave the fandom intact, a concept you may not fully appreciate nor understand.

You dislike the series, fine. I get that message loud and clear buddy.

Like I said, Devlin may not acknowledge the TV counterparts on his film(s), fine. Whatever. If he disses it, again fine, whatever.

If he publicly announces that all the fans for the 15 years are idiots and stupid for watching such rubbish, fine. He wants the whole SGU saga drama again, bring it on. He's not going to get the support he needs with that attitude and it's his profits that are going to be damaged at the end of the day.

He disses me, I don't have to pay a single penny to watch his film, I could walk away. I did it with SGU and I can do it again and most of the fans out there will probably do the same.

 

[Overmind One]

And you want to destroy 15 years of fandom to appease 2 hrs worth of film. Unlike you, I rather leave the fandom intact, a concept you may not fully appreciate nor understand.

You dislike the series, fine. I get that message loud and clear buddy.

Like I said, Devlin may not acknowledge the TV counterparts on his film(s), fine. Whatever. If he disses it, again fine, whatever.

If he publicly announces that all the fans for the 15 years are idiots and stupid for watching such rubbish, fine. He wants the whole SGU saga drama again, bring it on. He's not going to get the support he needs with that attitude and it's his profits that are going to be damaged at the end of the day.

He disses me, I don't have to pay a single penny to watch his film, I could walk away. I did it with SGU and I can do it again and most of the fans out there will probably do the same.

You have a great point there. I think he is going to disregard the series events, but if he goes further and disses them and tries to use his movies as a vehicle for insulting the series and its characters, that will turn me off too. I agree with OMNI that the Stargate movie was better than the pace of the series, but I loved the series too! I loved SG-1 and Atlantis and always considered them Stargate "themed", if not like the original. I came to love tham as stand-alone shows, and I even tried to view SGU as a stand alone show but it just wasnt any good to me. But SG-1 I loved, Atlantis I loved. The movie for me is special and epic and Im okay with him starting where he left off, but not calling the fans of the series idiots.

 

[Rac80]

My rant take 2

I think I understand where you're coming from here. I, too, would be more than happy with a Devlin movie that had absolutely zero reference to the TV shows. I really don't see a need for connecting them or even giving the TV shows a nod of recognition. In fact I suspect that Devlin would write in a joke or two insulting the series -- something about having snakes in the head or the like.

At any rate, I think a Devlin movie would be kick ass and I, for one, would have absolutely no problem separating his version of the concept from anyone else's. And really, what Stargate/sci-fi fan isn't going to see the movie? It's Stargate. It's sci-fi. It's a no-brainer.

this fan...I am an avid science fiction fan (both tv/movies and books) and I HAD NO INTEREST IN THE ORIGINAL STARGATE MOVIE!!! as I have stated before- it smacked too much of Erich von Daniken and "Chariots of the Gods" movement of the 70's. Have since watched the movie and it didn't thrill me- I am not a Kurt Russell action movie fan and James Spader was just pathetic to watch. So this is one stargate/scifi fan that probably won't bother with the movie.

And you want to destroy 15 years of fandom to appease 2 hrs worth of film. Unlike you, I rather leave the fandom intact, a concept you may not fully appreciate nor understand.

You dislike the series, fine. I get that message loud and clear buddy.

Like I said, Devlin may not acknowledge the TV counterparts on his film(s), fine. Whatever. If he disses it, again fine, whatever.

If he publicly announces that all the fans for the 15 years are idiots and stupid for watching such rubbish, fine. He wants the whole SGU saga drama again, bring it on. He's not going to get the support he needs with that attitude and it's his profits that are going to be damaged at the end of the day.

He disses me, I don't have to pay a single penny to watch his film, I could walk away. I did it with SGU and I can do it again and most of the fans out there will probably do the same.

I guess even a "big time" producer can act like a petty little twerp as BW did eh? If devlin disses the fans he is cutting his own throat (and wallet!) at the box-office.

You have a great point there. I think he is going to disregard the series events, but if he goes further and disses them and tries to use his movies as a vehicle for insulting the series and its characters, that will turn me off too. I agree with OMNI that the Stargate movie was better than the pace of the series, but I loved the series too! I loved SG-1 and Atlantis and always considered them Stargate "themed", if not like the original. I came to love tham as stand-alone shows, and I even tried to view SGU as a stand alone show but it just wasnt any good to me. But SG-1 I loved, Atlantis I loved. The movie for me is special and epic and Im okay with him starting where he left off, but not calling the fans of the series idiots.

see above! since he is choosing to act like BW than I will treat him as I do BW-- will see/buy nothing he's been involved in from now on!

 

[Tropicana]

this fan...I am an avid science fiction fan (both tv/movies and books) and I HAD NO INTEREST IN THE ORIGINAL STARGATE MOVIE!!! as I have stated before- it smacked too much of Erich von Daniken and "Chariots of the Gods" movement of the 70's. Have since watched the movie and it didn't thrill me- I am not a Kurt Russell action movie fan and James Spader was just pathetic to watch. So this is one stargate/scifi fan that probably won't bother with the movie.



I guess even a "big time" producer can act like a petty little twerp as BW did eh? If devlin disses the fans he is cutting his own throat (and wallet!) at the box-office.



see above! since he is choosing to act like BW than I will treat him as I do BW-- will see/buy nothing he's been involved in from now on!

Oh no, Devlin hasn't done anything of the sort yet. He's still a rogue element.

Devlin have stated his "disdain" towards the TV series for years now. However, OMNI was stating that Devlin shouldn't give a rat's ass about the series and its associations, and that I am a mere squeedrone bawling my eyes out like a baby should Devlin dis the TV series - which I stated - couldn't care less plus, that 15 years of fandom is no small pickle. Therefore stating, should Devlin dis the fans as idiots cos we like SG-1/SGA, etc (the series he dislikes), we will walk away, I know I will. Then only a select few inc OMNI (I'm sure) would be paying to watch Stargate, Original Movie Part 2. Then the hilarity would be that Devlin have failed to bring in the money with his take on SG.

Now, we wouldn't want to inflict such pain on Devlin, do we, should he make his movie? BW & Co learnt that lesson the hard way, we can make history repeat itself again.

 

[OMNI]

this fan...I am an avid science fiction fan (both tv/movies and books) and I HAD NO INTEREST IN THE ORIGINAL STARGATE MOVIE!!! as I have stated before- it smacked too much of Erich von Daniken and "Chariots of the Gods" movement of the 70's. Have since watched the movie and it didn't thrill me- I am not a Kurt Russell action movie fan and James Spader was just pathetic to watch. So this is one stargate/scifi fan that probably won't bother with the movie.



I guess even a "big time" producer can act like a petty little twerp as BW did eh? If devlin disses the fans he is cutting his own throat (and wallet!) at the box-office.



see above! since he is choosing to act like BW than I will treat him as I do BW-- will see/buy nothing he's been involved in from now on!

HURRAY!! than i take it we'll be free of your... complaining and moning about it? if so it will be a glorious day indeed!

Oh no, Devlin hasn't done anything of the sort yet. He's still a rogue element.

Devlin have stated his "disdain" towards the TV series for years now. However, OMNI was stating that Devlin shouldn't give a rat's ass about the series and its associations, and that I am a mere squeedrone bawling my eyes out like a baby should Devlin dis the TV series - which I stated - couldn't care less plus, that 15 years of fandom is no small pickle. Therefore stating, should Devlin dis the fans for being idiots cos we like SG-1/SGA, etc (the series he dislikes), we will walk away, I know I will. Then only a select few inc OMNI (I'm sure) would be paying to watch Stargate, Original Movie Part 2. Then the hilarity would be that Devlin have failed to bring in the money with his take on SG.

Now, we wouldn't want to inflict such pain on Devlin, do we?

i certainly would.

and imo a handfull fans of a crappy TV show (shows) wont make any sort of noticable impact on anything on the big screen.


Disclaimer: Yup ive grown to hate the BW Stargate experiment and imo it deserves no credit or praise as frankly from an analysing standpoint it was a clusterfrak beyond clusterfraks.

 

[shavedape]

this fan...I am an avid science fiction fan (both tv/movies and books) and I HAD NO INTEREST IN THE ORIGINAL STARGATE MOVIE!!! as I have stated before- it smacked too much of Erich von Daniken and "Chariots of the Gods" movement of the 70's. Have since watched the movie and it didn't thrill me- I am not a Kurt Russell action movie fan and James Spader was just pathetic to watch. So this is one stargate/scifi fan that probably won't bother with the movie.

You miss the point. The majority of sci-fi fans will see this movie because that's what they do, they like to view sci-fi. They're hardly going to let some imaginary internecine war between die hard Stargate fans stop them.

Besides, you have to see the movie! GateFans will be having a special invitation-only screening and you're in charge of the refreshments.

 

[Tropicana]

a few fans of a crappy TV show (shows) wont make any sort of impact on anything on the big screen.

Yeap, a few fans... you keep telling urself that, dear.

**valley girl mode**

Downplaying fan numbers... where did I see that move before, oh yes that's right - SGU fans. Didn't they say that we're a minority and how we're isolated and yet millions turned off from the show, and how we're stupid and angry and soooo non-cerebral. Gosh, you sound like one of them.

 

[Rac80]

You miss the point. The majority of sci-fi fans will see this movie because that's what they do, they like to view sci-fi. They're hardly going to let some imaginary internecine war between die hard Stargate fans stop them.

Besides, you have to see the movie! GateFans will be having a special invitation-only screening and you're in charge of the refreshments.

I'll serve my wonderful Ex-Lax brownies just for Omni!


Oh I see tropi...I shall have to watch and see if he goes down the BW road then.....

 

[OMNI]

Yeap, a few fans... you keep telling urself that, dear.

**valley girl mode**

Downplaying fan numbers... where did I see that move before, oh yes that's right - SGU fans. Didn't they say that we're a minority and how we're isolated and yet millions turned off from the show, and how we're stupid and angry and soooo non-cerebral. Gosh, you sound like one of them..

seriously you belive that you as a group brought down SGU? come on you should know better. the fact of the matter is that the show didnt attract viewers for a bunch of dif reasons and whatever BS was going on online had very little if ANY impact on the cancelation.

I'll serve my wonderful Ex-Lax brownies just for Omni!


Oh I see tropi...I shall have to watch and see if he goes down the BW road then.....

My mom told me never to accept food or treats from strangers

NOTE TO ALL: stay away from RAC'S COOKIES!!

 

[OMNI]

You miss the point. The majority of sci-fi fans will see this movie because that's what they do, they like to view sci-fi. They're hardly going to let some imaginary internecine war between die hard Stargate fans stop them.

Besides, you have to see the movie! GateFans will be having a special invitation-only screening and you're in charge of the refreshments.

yup and the added benefit of it being amped up and on the big screen will atract far more buts in the seats then a lil crappy TV show on an even crappier network ever would..

 

[shavedape]

Folks, no need for animosity here --



Group hug!

Look everyone, a Devlin movie would be a good thing. It can't possibly change 17 seasons worth of Stargate. That's just not gonna happen. But there is room for the concept to be explored, especially by one of the originators. This is actually quite exciting as the possibilities are endless. Plus a 2 hour movie pretty much means it would be chock full of action and excitement. We'd have uber cool bad guys, uber cool good guys, lots of gun porn and probably some uber cool SFX. Win win win!

P.S. Now Rac, put the knife down.

 

[OMNI]

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Group hug!

Look everyone, a Devlin movie would be a good thing. It can't possibly change 17 seasons worth of Stargate. That's just not gonna happen. But there is room for the concept to be explored, especially by one of the originators. This is actually quite exciting as the possibilities are endless. Plus a 2 hour movie pretty much means it would be chock full of action and excitement. We'd have uber cool bad guys, uber cool good guys, lots of gun porn and probably some uber cool SFX. Win win win!

P.S. Now Rac, put the knife down.

i dont hug so frak that

and hell yes in regards to bolded and enlarged.

oh and thats not a knife this is a knife!! (sorry couldnt help it)

 

[Tropicana]

Yeah I know SGU wasn't good, shock horror, I have been keeping tabs on the story, lol.

Also everybody knows SGU was crap, we have been discussing about it for months now. We maybe avid fans that talk about this online but it's the casual viewers out there around the world that did the talking - that evidently shares our views. You can't dismiss numbers. Just because we have a small number here on this forum does not mean, what we stand for isn't important. If our view was wrong, and millions didn't share our opinion (which mind you, they don't say online) SGU would be back for a S3 already.

We may not have some secret cabal that is linked to some stone masons that, somehow may or may not influence the world, that somehow axed SGU, but the feelings and sentiments are there. Online fans were turned off when SGU people said - ur favourite show {SG-1/SGA] is bubblegum, while trying to tell normal people out there in the vast land, that SGU is an intellectual show and is a must watch, while feeding them crap.

One thing you don't do, is dismiss numbers, or fans of a franchise.

Casual fans out there know what they like and they do read and watch (I know, another shock horror), and if Devlin goes on some entertainment show and say - "SG-1/SGA fans are idiots, they are really screwed up". Those viewers would know Devlin is a prick. And I can bet ya ever tweet, FB status, online article, entertainment magazine, guy magazine like FHM will quote him. fans of SG-1/SGA will switch off from his film and he will be labelled a party pooper. So you might think here is only a small group at GF, but you totally have no regard how vast and worldwide SG is, and how applicable this interlinks.

 

[Overmind One]

i dont hug so frak that

and hell yes in regards to bolded and enlarged.

oh and thats not a knife this is a knife!! (sorry couldnt help it)

YOU DONT HUG??? No wonder you get on a tear sometimes! If we ever meet in person, you are going to get hugged. I havent had a hug rejected EVER. For some older people, my hugs are the first ones they ever got! I love the way the Queen of England got into her hug with Michelle Obama, after decades of "We do not like to be touched". That GENUINE smile she had whilst Michelle was priceless.

Anyways, I think if there is a new Stargate movie, it will be AWESOME and have some awesome special effects in it. The movie pyramid ships and snakeheads were way scarier than in SG-1. They also need to stick with the orchestral music. If they try to change the music and allow some no-talent pop star to do it, he will fail. Can you imagine some weak pop tune as the theme?