Iron Man 3

Bluce Ree

Tech Admin / Council Member

Bluce Ree

Tech Admin / Council Member
I dislike the Avengers making it to film. It makes no sense why any of these superheroes would ever go at anything solo now as if the rest don't exist except during the next Avengers movie.

For example, every event I've seen in Iron Man would have drawn in the other Avengers, including the 3rd installment. So, it feels really contrived isolating each member of the Avengers for the sake of a movie and pretend the rest don't exist for the length of that movie.

It's not necessary to transpose the entire Marvel universe to film. It's quite alright to pick and choose and even isolate these superheroes into their own movie universes without the necessity of stupid crossovers.
 

mzzz

Well Known GateFan
Yeah agree with you there, to at least acknowledge the existence of the other ones in some brief cameos or something. But you have to take into consideration, this is comic book universe. It's not really about all the logical consequences, extreme realism, and whatnot - more about what they represent, heroism and whatnot.
 

Bluce Ree

Tech Admin / Council Member
Yeah agree with you there, to at least acknowledge the existence of the other ones in some brief cameos or something. But you have to take into consideration, this is comic book universe. It's not really about all the logical consequences, extreme realism, and whatnot - more about what they represent, heroism and whatnot.

I get the whole comic book universe otherwise I'd never be able to enjoy superhero movies. However, some consistency still should be maintained. After all, they're quite good at maintaining continuity in the comic books, at least within a series. Movie world isn't like comics, though. There are expectations when colored drawings on print paper are suddenly brought out to the real world using human actors who portray them. Spiderman went the extra mile to explain (though briefly and very superficially) how the web concoction was made. They didn't need to but movie world is not the same audience as comic book world.
 

Gatefan1976

Well Known GateFan
Thor is back in Asgard, no need for a cameo, and he has his own movie coming out soon.
Cap, Hawkeye and Black widow are probably off doing something for SHIELD, no need for cameo.
Bruce/Hulk -should- have a cameo in IM3, or at least a mention because at the end of Avengers, he went of with Stark.
They even state at the end of Avengers that they are going their separate ways *for now*.

Where is the lack of consistency?
 

Bluce Ree

Tech Admin / Council Member
Thor is back in Asgard, no need for a cameo, and he has his own movie coming out soon.
Cap, Hawkeye and Black widow are probably off doing something for SHIELD, no need for cameo.
Bruce/Hulk -should- have a cameo in IM3, or at least a mention because at the end of Avengers, he went of with Stark.
They even state at the end of Avengers that they are going their separate ways *for now*.

Where is the lack of consistency?

The fact none of them show up in each other's solo movies no matter how bad the villain is or how much chaos and destruction with which they have to deal.
 

Gatefan1976

Well Known GateFan
The fact none of them show up in each other's solo movies no matter how bad the villain is or how much chaos and destruction with which they have to deal.

What kind of hero would IM be if he needed to call in Thor to deal with another human?
Really dude, these guys are *superhero's*, the Avengers unite to take care of threats a single hero cannot, they are not on speed-dial ;)
 

Bluce Ree

Tech Admin / Council Member
What kind of hero would IM be if he needed to call in Thor to deal with another human?
Really dude, these guys are *superhero's*, the Avengers unite to take care of threats a single hero cannot, they are not on speed-dial ;)

He doesn't "need" to call in anyone. Superheroes aren't on speed dial, they don't get "called in", they show up when there's serious trouble and Thor isn't the only other Avenger. What you're suggesting would be like a cop handling a bank robbery and the other cops on dispatch or driving by figure "ah, he's got that one so why bother" and drive off. So, yeah, if another "superhero" is aware of what's going on (which they would be unless they're all on another planet at the same time) they'd show up and put an end to the chaos in minutes rather than drag on for days, causing damage, wounded, possible casualties, etc.

Here's another question. Since Thor is a god, why are any other super heroes necessary at all? Who the hell is more powerful than a "god"? :happy0007:
 

Overmind One

GateFans Gatemaster
Staff member
He doesn't "need" to call in anyone. Superheroes aren't on speed dial, they don't get "called in", they show up when there's serious trouble and Thor isn't the only other Avenger. What you're suggesting would be like a cop handling a bank robbery and the other cops on dispatch or driving by figure "ah, he's got that one so why bother" and drive off. So, yeah, if another "superhero" is aware of what's going on (which they would be unless they're all on another planet at the same time) they'd show up and put an end to the chaos in minutes rather than drag on for days, causing damage, wounded, possible casualties, etc.

Here's another question. Since Thor is a god, why are any other super heroes necessary at all? Who the hell is more powerful than a "god"? :happy0007:

The original Avengers included Ant-man and The Wasp. Im glad we did not get them in the last movie. :)
 

Bluce Ree

Tech Admin / Council Member
The original Avengers included Ant-man and The Wasp. Im glad we did not get them in the last movie. :)

Oh, so now we pick and choose our continuity from the comics, eh? :D

I'm starting an online petition to bring in Ant Man and The Wasp into the next Avengers movie. It would probably tank the franchise as fast as introducing Robin and Batgirl did to the previous incarnation of Batman. :icon_lol:
 

Joelist

What ship is this?
Staff member
He doesn't "need" to call in anyone. Superheroes aren't on speed dial, they don't get "called in", they show up when there's serious trouble and Thor isn't the only other Avenger. What you're suggesting would be like a cop handling a bank robbery and the other cops on dispatch or driving by figure "ah, he's got that one so why bother" and drive off. So, yeah, if another "superhero" is aware of what's going on (which they would be unless they're all on another planet at the same time) they'd show up and put an end to the chaos in minutes rather than drag on for days, causing damage, wounded, possible casualties, etc.

Here's another question. Since Thor is a god, why are any other super heroes necessary at all? Who the hell is more powerful than a "god"? :happy0007:

Which is why they needed to use someone like Loki as the villain - no one else could credibly be a threat to an Asgardian (remember the movie universe "sci-fi"-ized them and isn't emphasizing the whole demigod angle. It's also why the next baddie they all face is Thanos.

At least in Iron Man 3 they also have removed the "magical" aspect of the Mandarin, instead he is a mastermind criminal and terrorist. And if they really follow the "Extremis" storyline this could be really good.
 

mzzz

Well Known GateFan
Ant Man is getting his own film and will be in Avengers 2. Guess you didn't see the pics:

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He's sort of funny in a way, I guess:

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Joelist

What ship is this?
Staff member
I'm still waiting for the big budget feature film starring Super Chicken!

 

Overmind One

GateFans Gatemaster
Staff member
Ant Man is getting his own film and will be in Avengers 2. Guess you didn't see the pics:

Ant-Man-Movie-Costume-Back-570x317.jpg


Ant-Man-Movie-Costume-Helmet-570x320.jpg


He's sort of funny in a way, I guess:

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Cant really do Avengers without Ant Man, if you remember the comic book story of the Avengers. :) The Wasp will have to make an appearance as well, since Ant Man actually becomes The Wasp (in the comic story). He will need his own movie because he was not really that well known outside of the comics. Also, which Ant Man will they do in the movie...Dr Pym (the original) or Eric O'Grady (the interloper who found the suit). Im going with O'Grady...should be fun, especially if Thor returns. When a trailer is available, we will know which is which. Perhaps they will have both?
 

Overmind One

GateFans Gatemaster
Staff member
Pym's the one with Wasp.

Yep, you are right. So, hopefully we get Pym, since he is the one who discovered the formula which allowed him to shrink. I dont recall exactly, but the original Wasp was his girlfriend, right? I know for a time he was the Wasp too. I need to dig out those comics!
 
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