Review S2E17 - Common Descent

Rac80

The Belle of the Ball
One question about the ep- did they ever explain who Wray did the nasty with against her proclivities to have descendents? just curious......
 
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Stonelesscutter

Guest
Sometimes my dear Stoneless, a 'cake' is just a 'cake'. ;)

And why did you expect more criticism from me? I like to think I'm fair and objective although that often takes a backseat to teasing you (because it's so fun! :P).

In general I try not to comment too much on reviews here as they are always so personal in nature. It's one thing to argue facts but quite another to argue subjectivity. Your review was actually pretty straight forward. To be honest I was expecting you to be a bit more contrarian in order to play the Devil's advocate so I was surprised that you kept everything so even keel. In a way you have deprived me of the fuel needed for a good sustained public lashing, which may be the most diabolical thing you've ever done. Well played good sir! :D

Heheheheheh LOL!
Yeah I did that on purpose. :icon_twisted:
I don't always play devil's advocate by the way.
And yeah I know how you enjoy teasing me. ;)
 
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Stonelesscutter

Guest
One question about the ep- did they ever explain who Wray did the nasty with against her proclivities to have descendents? just curious......

Nope there was no mentioning of that.
Though I think that if a group of 80 people was to found a new civilization they'd have to make some sort of arrangement where lots of people have babies with eachother, so not just with a single person.
Polygamy FTW! :D
 

Rac80

The Belle of the Ball
Nope there was no mentioning of that.
Though I think that if a group of 80 people was to found a new civilization they'd have to make some sort of arrangement where lots of people have babies with eachother, so not just with a single person.
Polygamy FTW! :D

but...but....she doesn't like men so how would she contribute to the gene pool? were they asking her to do something she'd find disgusting? how nasty of them! :P if they wanted realistic wray would have no descendents! :P
 
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Stonelesscutter

Guest
but...but....she doesn't like men so how would she contribute to the gene pool? were they asking her to do something she'd find disgusting? how nasty of them! :P if they wanted realistic wray would have no descendents! :P

Hey, even lesbians want babies. It's in their programming. :)
Assuming the colonist didn't have access to in-vitro fertilization techniques she would have to surrender and do it the dirty way.
Who knows, maybe she acted like a cat in heat. :P
 

Terran77

Captain Tightpants
Maybe Alt-Wray decided to just take one for the team. With a (just a guess) 3-to-1 ratio of men to women, and only like 80 or so people total, you'd want to make sure every set of ovaries got used for baby-making. At least in the beginning of their society.
 

Rac80

The Belle of the Ball
LMAO atleast no one mentioned a turkey baster! But i'm sure there is one in the magical survival kit! ;)
 

Chappa'ai

GateFans Noob
Stargate impact?

Ok, I'm new to this forum so be gentle with me, please. I thought this episode was much improved and a decent twist on the numerous time travel episodes we've had throughout all 3 shows. I'm particularly curious to know who the mother of alt-Eli's son was but obviously the writers are leaving that one intentionally ambigious.

That being said, I do have one major problem with this episode and I'm surprised that no one else seems to have picked up on it (although I haven't exactly been thorough in my search of the forums so I may have missed a comment). My problem is that one of those measly little drones managed to blow a chunk out of a stargate. Sorry, I'm just not buying that. On several occasions on SG1 we have seen stargates remain intact after nuclear explosions, ships crashing into them and even a meteor impact. I find it hard to believe that one little drone could blow a whole in one. And the fact that this little plot device happened only to strand Eli and the others for 1 night when we knew that Destiny would come back for them all seemed a bit cheap. There's no way that Col Young is gonna leave that many main cast members behind!

Just a small little gripe I know but it kinda bugged me. In my opinion, the episode would have worked just as well if everyone escaped the planet first time and they spent more time at the end on the homeworld discovering what happened with the supervolcano.

Anyway, regardless of this I really did enjoy this episode a lot, in fact more than any I can remember in recent weeks. I just had to get that stargate thing off my chest! Ah, breathe... much better now!
 

Gatefan1976

Well Known GateFan
Welcome to the forums Chappa'ai :)

One plausible explanation I have heard is that the Destiny class gates are not as structurally solid as the MW or PG gates. Makes sense to me, but I haven't seen the ep yet, we don't get it till next week.
 

Overmind One

GateFans Gatemaster
Staff member
WELCOME to GateFans!

Ok, I'm new to this forum so be gentle with me, please. I thought this episode was much improved and a decent twist on the numerous time travel episodes we've had throughout all 3 shows. I'm particularly curious to know who the mother of alt-Eli's son was but obviously the writers are leaving that one intentionally ambigious.

Conceived in a test tube? :rotflmao:

That being said, I do have one major problem with this episode and I'm surprised that no one else seems to have picked up on it (although I haven't exactly been thorough in my search of the forums so I may have missed a comment). My problem is that one of those measly little drones managed to blow a chunk out of a stargate. Sorry, I'm just not buying that. On several occasions on SG1 we have seen stargates remain intact after nuclear explosions, ships crashing into them and even a meteor impact. I find it hard to believe that one little drone could blow a whole in one. And the fact that this little plot device happened only to strand Eli and the others for 1 night when we knew that Destiny would come back for them all seemed a bit cheap. There's no way that Col Young is gonna leave that many main cast members behind!

Yep, and those same little drones were firing at Destiny a while back and the shields protected them somewhat. If those drones are powerful enough to blow a chunk out of a stargate, they should have punched through Destiny as easily as a fork through cake. Big plotholes like that drove me crazy about this show.

Just a small little gripe I know but it kinda bugged me. In my opinion, the episode would have worked just as well if everyone escaped the planet first time and they spent more time at the end on the homeworld discovering what happened with the supervolcano.

Anyway, regardless of this I really did enjoy this episode a lot, in fact more than any I can remember in recent weeks. I just had to get that stargate thing off my chest! Ah, breathe... much better now!

Yeah, it wasnt the worst episode, but it wasnt the best either! Welcome to GateFans and enjoy your stay!

:welcomewagon:
 
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Stonelesscutter

Guest
Ok, I'm new to this forum so be gentle with me, please. I thought this episode was much improved and a decent twist on the numerous time travel episodes we've had throughout all 3 shows. I'm particularly curious to know who the mother of alt-Eli's son was but obviously the writers are leaving that one intentionally ambigious.

That being said, I do have one major problem with this episode and I'm surprised that no one else seems to have picked up on it (although I haven't exactly been thorough in my search of the forums so I may have missed a comment). My problem is that one of those measly little drones managed to blow a chunk out of a stargate. Sorry, I'm just not buying that. On several occasions on SG1 we have seen stargates remain intact after nuclear explosions, ships crashing into them and even a meteor impact. I find it hard to believe that one little drone could blow a whole in one. And the fact that this little plot device happened only to strand Eli and the others for 1 night when we knew that Destiny would come back for them all seemed a bit cheap. There's no way that Col Young is gonna leave that many main cast members behind!

Just a small little gripe I know but it kinda bugged me. In my opinion, the episode would have worked just as well if everyone escaped the planet first time and they spent more time at the end on the homeworld discovering what happened with the supervolcano.

Anyway, regardless of this I really did enjoy this episode a lot, in fact more than any I can remember in recent weeks. I just had to get that stargate thing off my chest! Ah, breathe... much better now!

First of all, welcome to the site. And don't worry I won't beat you up so badly that your momma wouldn't recognise you.
Jk ofcourse. ;) Kid gloves...

I can see how the 'hole in the gate' issue can be confusing for some. (expecting some smart ass to say that there's supposed to be a hole in the gate now)
The stargates in SGU are supposed to be older than the gates in SG1 and SGA. It is said nowhere that they are even made of naquadah. The SGU gates are smaller than the other gates. Also they work in a slightly different way and they have a much shorter distance capacity. So it is not a strange thing that the SGU gates are weaker than the SG1 and SGA gates. It's just a new addition to the so called SG-canon.
Regarding Overmind's remark about the drones not being able to penetrate Destiny's shields I can say that the stargates have no shields and therefore get the full blast of the weaponfire. If Destiny didn't have shielding it would likely be just as easily destroyed by the drones. The drones themselves are supposedly very technologically advanced. When the drones fire on Destiny we get to see bursts of sparks flying through the ships interior so even though the shields are up it still has some sort of effect. (this is ofcourse a very common visual effect in scifi series)
 

OMNI

My avatar speaks for itself.
First of all, welcome to the site. And don't worry I won't beat you up so badly that your momma wouldn't recognise you.
Jk ofcourse. ;) Kid gloves...

I can see how the 'hole in the gate' issue can be confusing for some. (expecting some smart ass to say that there's supposed to be a hole in the gate now)
The stargates in SGU are supposed to be older than the gates in SG1 and SGA. It is said nowhere that they are even made of naquadah. The SGU gates are smaller than the other gates. Also they work in a slightly different way and they have a much shorter distance capacity. So it is not a strange thing that the SGU gates are weaker than the SG1 and SGA gates. It's just a new addition to the so called SG-canon.
Regarding Overmind's remark about the drones not being able to penetrate Destiny's shields I can say that the stargates have no shields and therefore get the full blast of the weaponfire. If Destiny didn't have shielding it would likely be just as easily destroyed by the drones. The drones themselves are supposedly very technologically advanced. When the drones fire on Destiny we get to see bursts of sparks flying through the ships interior so even though the shields are up it still has some sort of effect. (this is ofcourse a very common visual effect in scifi series)

There is suposed to be a hole in the stargate!!!!! :P

personally i was surprised it didnt blow up bc of the hit to it with it being active and all.
 
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Stonelesscutter

Guest
There is suposed to be a hole in the stargate!!!!! :P

personally i was surprised it didnt blow up bc of the hit to it with it being active and all.

Well we know who wins the smartass of the week award don't we. ;)
Hmmm... Perhaps we could have that as one of the trinkets. :D I'm thinking a little picture of an ass saying E=mc2 or something.
Anywayz...
Where is it said that shooting at an active stargate will make it explode?
 

OMNI

My avatar speaks for itself.
Well we know who wins the smartass of the week award don't we. ;)
Hmmm... Perhaps we could have that as one of the trinkets. :D I'm thinking a little picture of an ass saying E=mc2 or something.
Anywayz...
Where is it said that shooting at an active stargate will make it explode?
Aye donkey ;) (insert shrek scottish accent*)

nowhere far as i know but gates amplify c4 stuck to em, anyway imo it would have been logical for it to go critical and blow up.
also an add to this subject was there an ep this season where the gate had been buried in rock? possibly form an asteriod impact or something yet that thing could dial.. meh more Sg style plothles.. sg1 sga and sgu are all full of em so this sort of stupidity isnt limited to sgu.
 

shavedape

Well Known GateFan
Well we know who wins the smartass of the week award don't we. ;)
Hmmm... Perhaps we could have that as one of the trinkets. :D I'm thinking a little picture of an ass saying E=mc2 or something.
Anywayz...
Where is it said that shooting at an active stargate will make it explode?

Now that is funny! Enjoy the green my Dutch counterpart! (nemesis?)
 
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