Star Wars VII - The Force Awakens

[Overmind One]

Roger Ebert did not like this movie.

http://www.rogerebert.com/far-flung...star-wars-the-problems-with-the-force-awakens

Excerpt:

The new leads in "Episode VII" are interesting enough but the film’s main problem is that it never provides them with a worthy, original story to justify going back to this universe. What’s worse, “The Force Awakens” pulls the original trilogy’s beloved main characters from the state of “happily ever” that we left them, achieved with plenty of blood, sweat and tears, and puts them in situations that make you feel like the whole thing just wasn’t worth going through in the first place. Case in point: we now find the Han Solo and Princess Leia couple in one of those senseless, cinematic, marital crises, the result of their child’s rebellious ways, and this only serves to spoil our past memories of them.

The movie accomplished what it set out to do...MAKE MONEY. Around 2 billion. As a Star Wars episode worth cherishing for a generation? Not so much.

 

[Overmind One]

YAY! Abrams figured out how to turn a species into Gods in Star Wars, too! In the same swoop, he also rendered battle fleets moot.

Well played, sir. Well played.

It's the Star Wars version of transwarp beaming. A weapon that can be fired through hyperspace and hit any planet, eh?

 

[Bluce Ree]

Roger Ebert did not like this movie.

http://www.rogerebert.com/far-flung...star-wars-the-problems-with-the-force-awakens

Excerpt:



The movie accomplished what it set out to do...MAKE MONEY. Around 2 billion. As a Star Wars episode worth cherishing for a generation? Not so much.

Imagine that. The movie sucked enough for Roger himself to rise from his grave so he can give one last scathing review.

 

[Overmind One]

Imagine that. The movie sucked enough for Roger himself to rise from his grave so he can give one last scathing review.

I should have noticed that. It is his company. The author was Gerardo Valero for Roger Ebert.com

 

[shavedape]

YAY! Abrams figured out how to turn a species into Gods in Star Wars, too! In the same swoop, he also rendered battle fleets moot.

Well played, sir. Well played.

But...but...unlike all the other Star Wars movies this one had a cute, precocious droid in it!

 

[Overmind One]

But...but...unlike all the other Star Wars movies this one had a cute, precocious droid in it!

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R2D2 should have stripped BB8 of parts and then him and C3PO could play kickball with his empty shell.

 

[Overmind One]

Okay, so we have (all in repackaged form):

Darth Vader
A Death Star
A war between the Empire and the Jedi (even though the Empire was destroyed and the Jedi killed)
Han Solo
Chewbacca
Princess Leia
C3P0
R2D2

Missing (so far)

Yoda (or some character who looks almost just like him and acts like him)
Jabba the Hutt
An Emperor (or dark Sith overlord)

Knowing this thread will be here after we have seen the movie, I want to predict right now that this next film will ape the first Star Wars Movie: A New Hope. I predict that the storyline, not the visuals, will be a re-interpretation of A New Hope with things switched around, shuffled a bit. I think there will be many many shout-outs to the original trilogy films. Props, perhaps even an alien bar scene. I think that the female character we see will follow the same sort of story arc as Luke Skywalker did in SW A New Hope. Not exactly the same, it will just remind us of that film, very strongly. I also predict that this film will break all records of previous Star Wars films, even if fans might be disappointed. The visuals will be bright, explode-y and fast paced. I think the impression will be "he overdid it" I do not know any of this will happen...just predicting.

My neighbor has already bought him and his wife a ticket. He only paid $20.00 for them, but in some places the pre-sale tickets for opening night are climbing quickly in price. Really? Do people still wait in lines at movie theaters?

I totally called this. Almost exactly.

 

[Lord Ba'al]

OMG 37 pages? I'm not going to read all this.

I thought The Force Awakens was alright but my mind is far from blown. Some people seem to be really fond of the new characters like Fin and Rey, personally I'm not feeling it, through they may yet grow on me in future movies. My favourite character is definitely Kylo Ren, particularly because of his explosion of frustration when he lightsabers some sort of console to pieces. Second favourite characters would then perhaps be the two stormtroopers who come walking around the corner just as that happens and decide to make a discrete exit. The story of the planetary weapon (Death Star 3.0) is just to me and wins a trophy for the most unoriginal plot in the history of cinema. What's the point in blowing up planets anyway? Wouldn't it be better and more fun to conquer them and enslave the population and exploit the resources? That's how it's done! Still, I can sit down and watch this movie. Comparing this to Star Trek 2009 I would say the latter was a way better job.

 

[YJ02]

Second favourite characters would then perhaps be the two stormtroopers who come walking around the corner just as that happens and decide to make a discrete exit

That was a funny bit-nice touch

Did you catch the appearance of a female stormtrooper as well-besides Phasma? I believe she was reporting to Ren right before the tantrum you described

nice use of tying in some previously non-canon ideas with that

Comparing this to Star Trek 2009 I would say the latter was a way better job.

ST 09 better?

No way man!

 

[Lord Ba'al]

That was a funny bit-nice touch

Did you catch the appearance of a female stormtrooper as well-besides Phasma? I believe she was reporting to Ren right before the tantrum you described

I don't look at other women...

nice use of tying in some previously non-canon ideas with that

I don't know any non-canon.

ST 09 better?

No way man!

Waaay.
It did a good job of putting Star Trek on the map again. Isn't there some new series coming next year?

 

[YJ02]

It did a good job of putting Star Trek on the map again

yrrch!!!

for all the wrong reasons it got put back on the map

Abrams Trek is like if someone mashed up a soft core porn movie with a Tom Cruise action flick and set it in space

 

[YJ02]

Isn't there some new series coming next year?

yes there is--rumor has it it will be set in the classic (aka: the only) Trek Galaxy and set in the time after the Khittamer Accords, I believe

there is a thread on this

 

[Overmind One]

yes there is--rumor has it it will be set in the classic (aka: the only) Trek Galaxy and set in the time after the Khittamer Accords, I believe

there is a thread on this

More than a rumor. They have loudly proclaimed that it will be set in the Prime Universe of Trek, but have not stated where in the timeline. Everybody's first question was "Is it or is it not in the dumb JJ Abrams universe?". If it had been, lots of people said they would never watch it. CBS made their announcement to make sure people would not be turned off.

 

[Joelist]

They also specifically brought in showrunners with a history of producing for Prime universe shows (like Voyager).

 

[YJ02]

They also specifically brought in showrunners with a history of producing for Prime universe shows (like Voyager).

YEAH!!!!!

 

[Bluce Ree]

So, this movie was so bad we've shifted to Trek talk to keep this thread alive?

 

[Joelist]

So, this movie was so bad we've shifted to Trek talk to keep this thread alive?

Nope. Just our usual thread drift. We've never been good about keeping threads on topic.

 

[Bluce Ree]

Nope. Just our usual thread drift. We've never been good about keeping threads on topic.

And the movie was bad.

 

[shavedape]

And the movie was bad.

But -- but -- it made money! How can it be bad if it made money?

 

[Rac80]

YAAAWWWNNN! did not pay for this movie - thank heavens - reworked the plot line from the first movie star wars. I felt it actually made the phantom menace look interesting & good.