Star Dreck? Maybe not. CBS's new Star Trek to be in Prime Universe

[Jim of WVa]

They may recoup their expenses, if they make the show adult.

 

[Joelist]

They have just named Bryan Fuller the showrunner for this show:

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Bryan_Fuller

Considering Fuller's extensive creds in Classic Trek, this should make for a contentious relationship between him and Kurtzman.

 

[Overmind One]

They have just named Bryan Fuller the showrunner for this show:

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Bryan_Fuller

Considering Fuller's extensive creds in Classic Trek, this should make for a contentious relationship between him and Kurtzman.

THIS makes it interesting. The only thing that made me do a Spock eyebrow raise was this:

In 2013, Fuller added, "I think there's something very exciting about the new J.J. Abrams-verse, and there's also kind of an interesting reinvention. How would The Next Generation evolve from that? Where would that be? Where would that go? But there's also... Star Trek is such a big universe, and there are so many places to go with it. I have a very specific idea that I would love to do. We'll see if I ever get the opportunity."

This seems to imply that the new series is in the JJverse, and if that is so, then we are still only at a 50/50 chance of it being good (better than 80/20 in favor of a fail). I am still not going to line up to be a first viewer, and I am not going to start salivating for the day I can purchase my CBS All Access account. I am encouraged by this though...

 

[Joelist]

I think Fuller made that remark before Into Darkness came out. I wonder what his thoughts were after Into Darkness plunged the Trekverse into darkness....

 

[Overmind One]

I think Fuller made that remark before Into Darkness came out. I wonder what his thoughts were after Into Darkness plunged the Trekverse into darkness....

I think the best move for CBS to make is to play Good Cop to the Bad Cop of Paramount. Bend to the fans who made TV Trek so successful on TV. Give us something Trek, and we WILL send them money. They have their new lawsuit with Axanar Productions (over money no less), to prove there is still money in Star Trek that the movies are not getting. Take that million or so that Axanar collected:

$1,000,000 = 120,000 subscribers paying only $8.00 each.

Right now, the real Trek fans are screaming loudly that they DO NOT LIKE the JJverse, and want the familiar Trek universe back, even if it has to have all new characters and ships. Put it back in the prime universe and continue to expand the already existing map of the Federation and the aliens we have already met in the galaxy.

 

[Joelist]

Well, they did sue Axanar because those nimrods not only violated the non-profit part of the licensing but also used indiegogo and kickstarter funds raised for the Axanar film to set up a studio which has purposes other than Axanar. I hope Paramount cleans their clock then produces Axanar themselves using the Axanar producers.

 

[Overmind One]

Well, they did sue Axanar because those nimrods not only violated the non-profit part of the licensing but also used indiegogo and kickstarter funds raised for the Axanar film to set up a studio which has purposes other than Axanar. I hope Paramount cleans their clock then produces Axanar themselves using the Axanar producers.

I agree completely. But it is also a real-life example of proof of concept. Paramount is clueless, as they keep serving us this Star Dreck garbage on the big screen and calling it Star Trek. They see the really telling comments on their official YouTube trailer and the ratio of likes to dislikes. They see fans collecting around these fan productions and they see the continued conventions of all Trek....EXCEPT the NuTrek stuff. This year, Star Trek fans will mourn the loss of Leonard Nimoy (and by necessity) the actual Spock of Star Trek.

 

[Overmind One]

This gimmick of making ST "pay-to-play" reminds me of Sarah Palin's great experiment in creating a subscription-based web site. That attempt failed miserably as we predicted. I think we're right on this one too.

This is so totally on point! That crossed my mind recently, then I realized I saw your post first! There is actually an audience whom would actually buy a bag of rabbit poo nuggets as long as it had a special prize inside the bag (like say...a cool decoder ring . They would toss the bag of poo and keep the prize and feel like they did not really buy a bag of poo.

 

[Overmind One]

And now....

One of many to come - unexpected gratuitous soft-porn scene injections (SPSI) in random threads....

 

[heisenberg]

I think the best move for CBS to make is to play Good Cop to the Bad Cop of Paramount. Bend to the fans who made TV Trek so successful on TV. Give us something Trek, and we WILL send them money. They have their new lawsuit with Axanar Productions (over money no less), to prove there is still money in Star Trek that the movies are not getting. Take that million or so that Axanar collected:

$1,000,000 = 120,000 subscribers paying only $8.00 each.

Right now, the real Trek fans are screaming loudly that they DO NOT LIKE the JJverse, and want the familiar Trek universe back, even if it has to have all new characters and ships. Put is back in the prime universe and continue to expand the already existing map of the Federation and the aliens we have already met in the galaxy.

http://www.gatefans.net/gforums/thr...he-showrunner-for-new-star-trek-series.28222/

 

[YJ02]

so keeping in mind a thing (imo) about entertainment rumors

-too early, and they are probably wrong
-timed about a yr out or so, and then seem to be almost a planned "Event" by tptb's/studios to get free buzz going on their new film/series

with that in mind:

"sources are saying that the CBS All Access show will be set in the classic continuity, which is to say not in the J.J. Abrams reboot-verse. Additionally, Season 1 of the series will be set before the era of The Next Generation, but after the events of Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. That covers a lot of years"

so, might we possibly have something good coming our way?

from: http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04...-rumored-to-be-set-before-the-next-generation

 

[Overmind One]

so keeping in mind a thing (imo) about entertainment rumors

-too early, and they are probably wrong
-timed about a yr out or so, and then seem to be almost a planned "Event" by tptb's/studios to get free buzz going on their new film/series

with that in mind:

"sources are saying that the CBS All Access show will be set in the classic continuity, which is to say not in the J.J. Abrams reboot-verse. Additionally, Season 1 of the series will be set before the era of The Next Generation, but after the events of Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. That covers a lot of years"

so, might we possibly have something good coming our way?

from: http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04...-rumored-to-be-set-before-the-next-generation

This nails it then, if true.

Right off the bat, this series is going to be a winner just for being in the prime universe alone. It means that we will get ships built in the Enterprise C-era (the one with the 90-degree nacelles)

Will this story be about the USS Enterprise? If so, then they will have to address the canon surrounding it. Enterprise C was the ship in Yesterday's Enterprise and the battle of Narendra III with the Klingons. It was responsible for the peace between the Klingons and the Federation that lasted through to the time of Picard and Enterprise D, and this ship was even on the walls of the Enterprise E in First Contact. Lt. Yar was transferred to this ship (but I hope they killed her off). She was captured by the Romulans later.

I am excited! I think I will change the title of this thread so it is not so negative.

 

[Overmind One]

Interesting (from your article link)

It sounds like the series will not be set on an Enterprise, and that it will be “heavily serialized.” Additionally, another (less reliable according to the site) rumor indicates that showrunner Bryan Fuller plans on integrating bad-guy Klingons into the show too. Old school! (Technically, the Federation would have reached détente with the Klingon Empire by this time, but hey, the galaxy is a big place. There are bound to be some hold-outs somewhere.)

And finally, it looks like the new Trek will be a seasonal anthology. Think American Horror Story, which mixes up formula, era and setting each year. That means this first season will be set pre-TNG, but next season… well, who knows? This is awesome.

Im still excited. They MUST be in space most of the time. If they put the show on the ground mostly, it will be boring.

 

[Overmind One]

Interesting (from your article link)



Im still excited. They MUST be in space most of the time. If they put the show on the ground mostly, it will be boring.

Overmind, you dumb ass, you saw it coming then you went blind again.

 

[PussyGalore]

Overmind, you dumb ass, you saw it coming then you went blind again.

 

[heisenberg]

Can we talk about hate on the new Star Trek series coming to TV in 2017 from Alex Kurtzman and Heather Kadin this early? We might as well get started early, because given what we already know, how will it be anything less than this?:

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The reason for that is the ingredients of the show. The writers are Alex Kurtzman and Heather Kadin. Click their names for their IMdB pages, and you do not see anything in there that makes for a good Trek series. That is, unless you want JJverse Trek, which is actually not the creation of JJ Abrams, but is the creation of Orci, Kurzman and Lindelov

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Kurtzman and Lindelof and Orci crafted what people call the "JJverse of NuTrek". But JJ had little to do with it. This is the deeds of the "Trek" series coming out in 2017. And why did Kurtzman get this gig? Because of this:

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And that is why this is going to suck. Well, This is the first in a string of troll-y, whiney Star Trek Fanboy rants I plan to spew.

Discuss Troll!

look like what shatner did trolololol

http://mashable.com/2017/11/27/star-trek-william-shatner-blocked-jason-isaacs-twitter/#S0fLfF.Y8sqT