So! What books have you been reading?!

Nope wasn't interested at all. I prefer the classics these days. Am debating spending the new year with Isaac! ;)

Give the "Thursday Next" series by Jasper Fforde a try. At least read the first one "The Eyre Affair". It's an alt-universe series that encompasses a lot of English literature. It's weird at first but then becomes quite interesting.
 

Rac80

The Belle of the Ball
I too am a paper book person. While I use my tablet for some reading....mostly professional articles & work info. To relax give me a physical book.

I admit I never buy a book unless I find it worth a second read. I will get new books, from even my most favorite authors, at the library before I buy! Every book on my shelves has been read at least 5 times ( newer books)

My collection is everything from SciFi to classics to biographies to general histories to political thought to romances to religious works (99% LDS) to Calvin & Hobbes!

Two words:book nerd!
:zelenkaanime17:
 
I too am a paper book person. While I use my tablet for some reading....mostly professional articles & work info. To relax give me a physical book.

I admit I never buy a book unless I find it worth a second read. I will get new books, from even my most favorite authors, at the library before I buy! Every book on my shelves has been read at least 5 times ( newer books)

My collection is everything from SciFi to classics to biographies to general histories to political thought to romances to religious works (99% LDS) to Calvin & Hobbes!

Two words:book nerd!
:zelenkaanime17:

Two words for the book nerd: Jasper Fforde.


*Yes, he spells his name with two "F"s.
 

Overmind One

GateFans Gatemaster
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Two words for the book nerd: Jasper Fforde.


*Yes, he spells his name with two "F"s.

Really? Did he make it up or is that a real surname? Why not Phfphorde? :icon_lol:
 
Really? Did he make it up or is that a real surname? Why not Phfphorde? :icon_lol:

I honestly can't remember the reason he spells his name with two "F"s despite having gone to a book signing of his several years ago and hearing his explanation for the multiple consonants. He's British and his stories naturally take place in Great Britain. They're funny and clever but you definitely need a grounding in literary classics to catch all the jokes and references he makes. ("Miss Havisham" from Great Expectations appears in a couple of the books and she's a hoot; the joke being that she's completely different from how she appears in Dicken's work.)

A word of warning though: you have to start the "Thursday Next" book series at the beginning otherwise you will not understand the alt-universe at all.
 

YJ02

Well Known GateFan
just finished re-reading this

always refreshing to be reminded of just HOW wrong hollywood and the like-as well as modern schoolbooks-always gets this wrong

one of the biggest things, barbarians, this book focuses on the germanic tribes- wanted to become Roman. not in the pomposity or vice, but in what they had. mainly ordered life, organized agriculture and industry and rule of law

they also mainly dropped their native languages for the roman, or more specifically, the latin spoken in the provinces they settled in

it also reminds us how a similar scenario repeats itself over and over. that those well off with money,land and armed servants, can always buy or fight their way into any new order.

the wealthy, senatorial class of gallo-romans bribed their way to survival into frankish, visigoth and burgundian favor and even retained many positions of civil and military power

the wealthy, senatorial class of latin italians more or less, ingratiated and volunteered their knowledge of how to keep civil systems working to stay in favor with first the ostrogoths and then the lombards

I KNOW it is damned boring to many of you here, but what can I say.... :)

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1176727.The_Barbarian_Invasions
 

Overmind One

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Andy Weir's Artemis
The Expanse series of books
Karl Gallagher's Torchship series

I just finished the Expanse books. :) I never heard of the Torchship series...any good?
 

Rac80

The Belle of the Ball
OK onto real history now.. Alison Weir ( no relationship to Dr Weir of Atlantis :sam56:) is an amazing biographer! She does English royalty...reading Isabella She- Wolf of France; Queen of England :zelenkaanime17::zelenkaanime17:
 

Overmind One

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The number of books in the Expanse series recently increased with the release of a new book in the early part of Dec 2017.

The Expanse universe is somehow much more believable to me and the backdrop is properly dark when they are in space, and bright and colorful when they are on earth. They manage to convey this in the books. It isn't post apocalyptic, but most of what we know today is crumbling away for something new. It's proper science fiction nobody has done before. I will be getting those new books!
 

YJ02

Well Known GateFan

so, i read it. i wouldn't call it fun or enjoyable though. and if you are a facts, stats and get to the point kind of reader, don't bother trying to read it

it is a "slow" book. its well written but Huxley gets so bogged down into his descriptions--probably for fear of not totally conveying his true experiences-that you may often want to set it down

In DOORS OF PERCEPTION, he displays the quagmires that organized religion has created by condemning anciently held and practiced human behaviors and interactions with the products of the natural world. He contends, and I agree, that org religion, along with modern cultures built around them, are so restrictive and punitive that they have led many people into self-harm with abusive behaviors to include the abuse of alcohol, certain foods and pharmaceuticals--synthetic drugs that is. For the modern day, I would add to this list the abuses of certain ways of living like internet addictions, porn and sex addictions and other learned abnormal behaviors, even some that are marginally accepted by much of society, like gambling for example.

Huxley then makes his case for safe hallucinogens (in his case mescaline) which, he believes, could truly enlighten us and teach us about the world/the true self. HE also makes comparisons and contrasts to the behaviors associated with mescaline experiences and how they may help one better understand the experiences of the mentally ill, mainly schizophrenics (as the disease was understood to be in the 50's). As well as to facilitate a better understanding of the visual and audible arts, and,based on the life experiences of the user, possible better insight into those things they have learned and experienced. He hints that the use of mescaline, and other hallucinogens, MAY help those ppl to be their better selves. Example- a lawyer ,may become even more understanding of the law at a deeper level then he ever did. A engineer may become more creative after a managed, therapeutic use of mescaline. To be guided through any roadblocks they may be having to new design challenges and work demands based on their education and training examined WHILE on mescaline. hmmm maybe...

The 2nd half, HEAVEN AND HELL, was more in depth. One thing he concludes is that people can reach similar levels of consciousness by meditating as they can with the assistance of mind-altering drugs. Huxley also gives opinions of the various methods of starting a transcendent state used throughout the human experience, including things like--- starvation, singing, prayer, philosophical contemplation, breathing exercises, sensory deprivation, etc.

Of course, these were described by him-a 1950's english progressive who could only make this connections based on his opinion of what was known about history and the practices of other ethnic groups. Remember, at this time, the west and the educated man in it, was still under the prescriptions of being educated through a racist and the 'white man superior' perspective

So, while he may hold up as virtuous the transcendental practices of the American Indian, he does it in the context of the 'white man superior' position that those transcendental actions of the Am Indian ARE the only things virtuous to that people.

but, in proposing that people use these natural drugs, is he not also short changing the power of a human's natural abilities? He is suggesting that even after yrs of education and training and job experience, that we are just not cut out for producing quality in our work life WITHOUT the use of these elements? Is this not an excuse for later movements to turn to these natural drugs before attempting to perform without them?

Another problem that is implied by his writings in both parts, is the idea that the modern pharma industry is/was producing synthesized drugs based on the model of naturally occurring medicinal/hallucinogenic elements.

The idea that the pharma industry was producing synth drugs like librium (one of the first benzo's) in the 50's and that this could give a person a relaxed state as good as or better then say unaltered marijuana. This idea hinted by his work and perhaps one used indirectly by big pharma ("Huxley says buy our valium!" ) to forward and hock their goods is wrong and another attempt of big pharma and their associates (govt and other corporates) to distort the writings of ppl like Huxley and later, Leary, to their profit.

Of course it is not the fault of Huxley for how others used his work and though, so far as I know, he never endorsed big pharma, he certainly did nothing to stop them.
 

Gate_Boarder

Well Known GateFan
so, i read it. i wouldn't call it fun or enjoyable though. and if you are a facts, stats and get to the point kind of reader, don't bother trying to read it



In DOORS OF PERCEPTION, he displays the quagmires that organized religion has created by condemning anciently held and practiced human behaviors and interactions with the products of the natural world. He contends, and I agree, that org religion, along with modern cultures built around them, are so restrictive and punitive that they have led many people into self-harm with abusive behaviors to include the abuse of alcohol, certain foods and pharmaceuticals--synthetic drugs that is. For the modern day, I would add to this list the abuses of certain ways of living like internet addictions, porn and sex addictions and other learned abnormal behaviors, even some that are marginally accepted by much of society, like gambling for example.

Huxley then makes his case for safe hallucinogens (in his case mescaline) which, he believes, could truly enlighten us and teach us about the world/the true self. HE also makes comparisons and contrasts to the behaviors associated with mescaline experiences and how they may help one better understand the experiences of the mentally ill, mainly schizophrenics (as the disease was understood to be in the 50's). As well as to facilitate a better understanding of the visual and audible arts, and,based on the life experiences of the user, possible better insight into those things they have learned and experienced. He hints that the use of mescaline, and other hallucinogens, MAY help those ppl to be their better selves. Example- a lawyer ,may become even more understanding of the law at a deeper level then he ever did. A engineer may become more creative after a managed, therapeutic use of mescaline. To be guided through any roadblocks they may be having to new design challenges and work demands based on their education and training examined WHILE on mescaline. hmmm maybe ... Of course it is not the fault of Huxley for how others used his work and though, so far as I know, he never endorsed big pharma, he certainly did nothing to stop them.

Crank up the old "Doors" videos on YouTube and continue with your readings. Thirty years ago I inherited a set of books, with four volumes. Somehow I stopped reading books, whether historical or sci-fi, and can never see myself going back to reading. Every May I say 'let's pull out a book and do some reading and by Labour Day you will have done it'. That's every year for the last ten years - and of course I haven't been that successful.


I still have a stash of Soma from my high school dazes. My little packet is probably as dry as crackers, but it matches some of the writings from what once was "A Brave World".
 
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YJ02

Well Known GateFan
Crank up the old "Doors" videos on YouTube and continue with your readings. Thirty years ago I inherited a set of books, with four volumes. Somehow I stopped reading books, whether historical or sci-fi, and can never see myself going back to reading. Every May I say 'let's pull out a book and do some reading and by Labour Day you will have done it'. That's every year for the last ten years - and of course I haven't been that successful.


I still have a stash of Soma from my high school dazes. My little packet is probably as dry as crackers, but it matches some of the writings from what once was "A Brave World".


i'll probably keep away from these types of books for a bit. I just wanted to get to this one as it had been on the bookshelf for quite awhile, unread.

just started reading SILK ROADS; a history of the trade routes and intersections of the east and the west in central asia:

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YJ02

Well Known GateFan
over the last three months i have re-read THE WARLORD CHRONICLES by Cornwell. a historical fiction set of nvels based around the original Arthur legend- Arthur as Romano-British general and not King

then went to finally, read Stoker's DRACULA and am now reading Stokers collection of novels including THE LAIR OF THE WHITE WORM and JEWEL OF SEVEN STARS.

Stoker is a slow read but very entertaining

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YJ02

Well Known GateFan
over the last three months i have re-read THE WARLORD CHRONICLES by Cornwell. a historical fiction set of nvels based around the original Arthur legend- Arthur as Romano-British general and not King

then went to finally, read Stoker's DRACULA and am now reading Stokers collection of novels including THE LAIR OF THE WHITE WORM and JEWEL OF SEVEN STARS.

Stoker is a slow read but very entertaining

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finished this a while back

first off--Stoker is over rated

I read Dracula and Dracula's Guest before this and they are evidence that occasionally the Hollywood movie is better then the source material

then these 3 books; the best out of them was The Lair Of The White Worm (they made a cheese ball movie out of in the 80's)

The LADY OF THE SHROUD? Starts good, you think it will be a story of the supernatural with a 'sleeping beauty' type female character whom the main character is visited by when she wakes fro mtime to time. He beleives her to be a vampire

but then, half way through the book-- nope! No vampire, she is just on opioids!!

then Stoker takes about 200 pages to end the book in a total change of plot from the supernatural to some pre WW1 political melodrama.



Jewel of Seven Stars was ok. about a female mummy and her quest to be re-incarnated. Supposedly 7stars is a kind of motivational piece for the much better Mummy stories that came after. 7 stars also was made into a movie of different names at least 2 times. In those cases, the movie TPTB's also did a much better story then the book presented

It is almost like Stoker never drew up a plan or outline for his stories; like he just woke up every morning and tried to remember how to follow up on what he wrote the day before. Then forgot or changed his mind, said "F it" and took a different direction.
 
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