Dominion (aka the war against the angels) Ratings and Predictions (Awards Given)
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shavedape
Well Known GateFan
Thank you for raising my spirits!
The recent up-tick in ratings had me feeling blue but the reminder that they are spending lots of money on HUGE casts and sets, along with CGI is music to my ears, or eyes rather. It's only a matter of time before the Budget Monster eats them alive. 
Jim of WVa
Well Known GateFan
The next episode will have a worse rating because yesterday's episode (07/10/14) was so bad.
Thank you for raising my spirits!
Yep. This thing cant last past a SINGLE season. 1.6m is dismal for episode 3 of a new show.
Jim of WVa
Well Known GateFan
Maybe, but I think that the budget for Dominion and Defiance may be much lower than the budget for SGU. I have not been able to find a quote for the per episode budget of either Dominion or Defiance.
I think Defiance has to be higher than Dominion because they are using real sets, but I am guessing. SGU was 2 million per episode IIRC. I have nobody I can call at Trion Worlds, or the gaming industry for that matter. But I do have several Industry connections I can tap. Perhaps some numbers on Dominion? I dont know anybody at Syfy or Comcast.
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According to this: http://www.adweek.com/news/advertising-branding/syfy-bets-105m-tv-series-and-video-game-147622
$40 million has been budgeted for this show, which is part of a $105 million total budget. It does not say if this is per year or for a pre-determined 2 year run.
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Defiance is super high budget even with the online game tie in - $105 million is a BIG loss. Dominion is also not cheap, as doing a show with that much CGI drives the cost up. By comparison Sanctuary came in at or under 1 million per episode and delivered higher ratings and SGA came in under 2 million per episode and likewise delivered higher ratings.
Really, if SyFy is ever going to be a profit center on its own they need to put the priority on writing the shows better and less on looking fancy. Then they can run shows on small budgets where the writing would attract the needed audience to turn a profit.
Really, if SyFy is ever going to be a profit center on its own they need to put the priority on writing the shows better and less on looking fancy. Then they can run shows on small budgets where the writing would attract the needed audience to turn a profit.
Jim of WVa
Well Known GateFan
SGU was approximately 3 million per episode. Atlantis and SG-1 were about 2 million per episode.
shavedape
Well Known GateFan
I would add that the large size of the casts for these shows doesn't help the budget either. DEFECATION actually has a lot of people in each episode. And Dominion seems to suffer from the same issue, but maybe not to as great an extent. Still, a large cast is a budget breaker in the long run unless a show is enormously successful.
As for the video game tie in for DEFECATION, well, it looks like they abandoned that as I haven't seen or heard anything about it this season. Are they still running commercials for it during the show? I only have watched bits and pieces of certain episodes as I can't devote a full hour of my life to this turkey. I only ask because this, too, would be a harbinger of how this show is fast approaching its end.
YJ02
Well Known GateFan
do those numbers include DVR recordings? I still haven't hit the "cancel recording series" button on mine yet
heisenberg
Earl Grey
Except they have only ordered 11 and 7 fewer episodes respectively.Defiance has 13 episodes. Whereas dominion has only 9(according to wikipedia). Though I think Dominion may have more who knows, but my point was, these guys have fewer episodes.
heisenberg
Earl Grey
The episode has already aired but tvbythenumbers waits for a large chunk of the rating to arrive and then posts them.
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Oh dear....I just tried to watch a bit of the second episode, and I couldnt last 10 minutes. 
This thing would not even have made a good TV movie, let alone a series.
This thing would not even have made a good TV movie, let alone a series.
shavedape
Well Known GateFan
Oh dear....I just tried to watch a bit of the second episode, and I couldnt last 10 minutes.
I had the same reaction. I don't think I made it past 5 minutes of the second episode that I watched. The show is just dumb and uninteresting.
Wow, the Hollywood Reporter is holding no punches scalding this thing!
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/tv-review-dominion-712479
Some gems...
"Syfy's latest drama, Dominion, may be one of the dumbest, worst-acted, most poorly written series I've seen in ages. In no way should this encourage you to tune in hoping to rubberneck this bit of awfulness in hopes of creating some kind of new drinking game."
"It would be generous to say that Syfy's track record with dramas of late has been "spotty." This channel consistently settles for mediocrity and, in this instance, its far sadder cousin."
"Even with Syfy's helpful list of those involved, it's hard to tell who created and wrote this thing and why they should be singled out for scorn. Let's just say three or four people did a very bad thing and leave it at that. I'm reluctant to even list the actors because that can't help, can it? Better to just let Dominion slip off into oblivion and no one will be the wiser, right?"
heisenberg
Earl Grey
The people in the comment section say otherwise...
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/20...ousness-mythbusters-defiance-dominion/281669/