Which thread? The Rick Grimes thread? Its here: http://www.gatefans.net/gforums/threads/rick-grimes-for-tampax-tampons.27069/
The Best and the Worst - Depictions of women in Science Fiction Television series.
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Which thread? The Rick Grimes thread? Its here: http://www.gatefans.net/gforums/threads/rick-grimes-for-tampax-tampons.27069/
shavedape
Well Known GateFan
No, the "Women of SciFi" thread that runs parallel with the blog post JL published. I thought a new thread instantly gets created when that happens, no?
(I know this is the initial thread but it isn't logging the comments from the article the way the Rick Grimes one did/does.)
No, the "Women of SciFi" thread that runs parallel with the blog post JL published. I thought a new thread instantly gets created when that happens, no?
(I know this is the initial thread but it isn't logging the comments from the article the way the Rick Grimes one did/does.)
Yes, unless he did not select the category the thread is supposed to be published in.
The video showed the process...I will check.
shavedape
Well Known GateFan
Farscape crossed my mind actually. The female characters on that show were, for the most part, fascinating.
Illiterati
Council Member & Author
You make excellent points here.
Most shows seem to show women simply as mobile heaving breasts looking to be "saved" by the show's menfolk. Firefly's women wouldn't have put up with that kind of rampaging stupidity.
Most shows seem to show women simply as mobile heaving breasts looking to be "saved" by the show's menfolk. Firefly's women wouldn't have put up with that kind of rampaging stupidity.
Not "saved", but LIBERATED!
I fixed everything wrong with it. You have to choose GateFans Newsline EVERY time. I have successfully merged all of the threads and you have credit. Comments are working from the blog and from the forums, and you can reply either place.
This is a great article.
My bad. I had selected Editorial because I figured an opinion piece wasn't "news".
Good points. I would note that with Seven of Nine the producers may have originally intended her to be eye candy (although interestingly there was a divide was Moore had wanted her to look rather more Borg) but the end result was a strongly written character with a definite arc.
As to Farscape, I do agree that it did a good job of not presenting women as simply relationship objects. It is an example of the "good" but to me the two I presented were just a little bit more distinct in this area. Now the character in SG-1 of Vala is interesting. I would call that character more of a comedy character than a drama character and Claudia Black did a great job of bringing her to life. That said, the material given her was kind of thin and Vala wasn't really given an arc that developed her that well - a true pity given the caliber of the actress.
And Shaved, James in SGU is an excellent point. I had considered going into more detail on just how offensive the entire character was but I wanted to keep the blog post length manageable. However on second thought I might do an edit and expand a bit on her because she so typifies the wrong headedness of the writing.
Good points. I would note that with Seven of Nine the producers may have originally intended her to be eye candy (although interestingly there was a divide was Moore had wanted her to look rather more Borg) but the end result was a strongly written character with a definite arc.
As to Farscape, I do agree that it did a good job of not presenting women as simply relationship objects. It is an example of the "good" but to me the two I presented were just a little bit more distinct in this area. Now the character in SG-1 of Vala is interesting. I would call that character more of a comedy character than a drama character and Claudia Black did a great job of bringing her to life. That said, the material given her was kind of thin and Vala wasn't really given an arc that developed her that well - a true pity given the caliber of the actress.
And Shaved, James in SGU is an excellent point. I had considered going into more detail on just how offensive the entire character was but I wanted to keep the blog post length manageable. However on second thought I might do an edit and expand a bit on her because she so typifies the wrong headedness of the writing.
James was SO BAD in Stargate Universe that she set a new low. This is all I can remember of her in the show:
I cant remember her doing anything but standing around Destiny, or having sex with somebody. She didnt really have her own episode where she was focused on, and I dont remember how she even got to Icarus.
Chloe was supposed to be one of the central characters along with Lt Scott (BJS). Neither one of them did anything for the show IMO. But the worst thing of all were those idiotic, mindblowingly dumb communications stones.
They added the mega-whore element to it by allowing Chloe (already a slut) to REMOTELY slut out some hapless, dumb volunteer female on earth and get drunk in a nightclub with Eli. SGU is beyond wrong.
Rac80
The Belle of the Ball
never focused on her "assets"? the costume did that. everyone else was in starfleet uniforms - even the former Maquis-- why not her????? Be'lanna & janeway were great characters- both attractive women but not in catsuits and spike heels (and where in hell did those heels come from?)You think so? Jeri Ryan is actually quite a good actress.
They actually didn't Rac. Despite the catsuit (the spurious explanation was it was supposed to help her skin recover from being Borg'ed) they didn't do pseudo erotic stuff like the gel rubs in the decon chamber or T'Pol receiving gene therapy from Trip. That was the irony - she wore a catsuit and heels but the actual writing of the character was very UN-cheesecake.
YJ02
Well Known GateFan
Don't forget, the gel rubs were necessary, though I don't recall them ever having say, Tripp and Archer coming back from a trip at the same time...
All these silly ratings I can now give posts has got me spending more time rating than posting. I also seem to be handing out pointless ratings that make little sense.
In other words, you are having fun.
That is why they have been installed here. Gatefan1976
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@ Joe
I assume Buffy is not on this list as she more fits into the fantasy/supernatural schtik?
I assume Buffy is not on this list as she more fits into the fantasy/supernatural schtik?