Star Trek 4 movie: CANCELLED!

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For true Star Trek fans, this is great news! :)

https://trekmovie.com/2019/01/08/report-star-trek-4-may-be-shelved/

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Last April, shortly after Paramount CEO Jim Gianopulos announced that not just one but two Star Trek projects were in development, J.J. Abrams’ Bad Robot tapped director S.J. Clarkson to helm the follow-up to the 2016 film Star Trek Beyond. In the late spring and early summer of 2018, she met with cast members and there was talk that the film would go into production early in 2019. However, in August, the project stalled over salary negotiations with Captain Kirk actor Chris Pine and Chris Hemsworth, who was set to return to the role of George Kirk.

Since that August report, there has been no news on any progress on Star Trek 4. And now comes an indication that Paramount has put the project on hold, at least for now. Today an article from Deadline about S.J. Clarkson’s future, notes that she has been hired to direct and executive produce the pilot for HBO’s upcoming Game of Thrones prequel series, with the Trek project now “shelved.”
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Hopefully, this means an end to the "Kelvin timeline". If we ever get another Star Trek movie that is the real thing, somebody needs to go back and kill that whole timeline so it never existed. Perhaps bring in Q, or use the Guardian of Forever.
 
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singularity said:
I think it's because of Les Moonves who got fired. I for one would have preferred a Q centric miniseries. Just for fun.
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Bad news on the Picard front....Jen Luc will be "profoundly affected" by the destruction of Romulus (Kelvin timeline) in the new show which is set post Nemesis. So, Kurtzman is trying to stitch together his TOS Kelvin timeline and his future Kelvin timeline events after Nimoy's Spock allegedly used red matter and Vulcan was destroyed. This tells us far in advance that the Picard series is going to suck. Kurtzman will use Patrick Stewart the same way he used Nimoy to destroy the prime timeline. Picard will be used as thread to stitch the fake NuTrek timeline together. What he misses is that by then the entire original fanbase will have bailed on Star Trek and moved over to The Orville.
 
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The thing here is if (as seems likely with the movie being scrapped) Bad Robot's Trek license lapses then STD would instantly be unable to be made as would the Picard show because they both are produced by Bad Robot.
 
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Joelist said:
The thing here is if (as seems likely with the movie being scrapped) Bad Robot's Trek license lapses then STD would instantly be unable to be made as would the Picard show because they both are produced by Bad Robot.
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Not anymore...Kurtzman's separate deal with CBS was made with his production company Secret Hideout. Kurtzman no longer needs Bad Robot, just the Paramount license.
 
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Someone needs to point this fallacy out to Patrick Stewart.
 
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Paramount is not involved in STD directly. Their license was in play via Bad Robot but if BR is out then so is the Paramount license. CBS of course is the original rights holder and this is why there was no excuse for STD using Kelvin-verse elements but some weird component in financing the first season meant the Paramount license was in play.
 
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Joelist said:
Paramount is not involved in STD directly. Their license was in play via Bad Robot but if BR is out then so is the Paramount license. CBS of course is the original rights holder and this is why there was no excuse for STD using Kelvin-verse elements but some weird component in financing the first season meant the Paramount license was in play.
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You didn't read my comment? The $25 million dollar deal between CBS and Kurtzman is between CBS and his production company Secret Hideout. Bad Robot has nothing to do with it. Bad Robot does not own the Paramount license, and that is why Secret Hideout can use it.
 
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Joelist said:
The thing here is if (as seems likely with the movie being scrapped) Bad Robot's Trek license lapses then STD would instantly be unable to be made as would the Picard show because they both are produced by Bad Robot.
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Bad Robot is a production company. They do not own the IP license. Bad Robot is out of Star Trek, but the Paramount license is transferrable and can now be used by Kurtzman's company Secret Hideout.
 
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Overmind One said:
For true Star Trek fans, this is great news! :)

https://trekmovie.com/2019/01/08/report-star-trek-4-may-be-shelved/

Excerpt:



Hopefully, this means an end to the "Kelvin timeline". If we ever get another Star Trek movie that is the real thing, somebody needs to go back and kill that whole timeline so it never existed. Perhaps bring in Q, or use the Guardian of Forever.
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Speaking with THR, Alex Kurtzman confirmed that the series will actually be set after the events of the 2009 Star Trek film (in the Prime Timeline, of course, rather than the Kelvin alt-reality), which revealed that the Romulan Empire had been torn apart by the destruction of Romulus, consumed by a star going supernova.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-first-picard-tv-show-details-tease-an-intriguing-co-1831529506
 
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Overmind One said:
So, Kurtzman is trying to stitch together his TOS Kelvin timeline and his future Kelvin timeline events after Nimoy's Spock allegedly used red matter and Vulcan was destroyed.
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just nix that by saying that the Spock who used red mater was actually from yet another timeline, not the Prime one

so, two timelines that have been just bad dream..... :eek:
 
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YJ02 said:
just nix that by saying that the Spock who used red mater was actually from yet another timeline, not the Prime one

so, two timelines that have been just bad dream..... :eek:
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That is the problem...Kurtzman's Picard show starts out AFTER the Kelvin event of Romulus being destroyed which means that the Picard show is in the Kelvin timeline and that is a death sentence for the show.
 
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Overmind One said:
That is the problem...Kurtzman's Picard show starts out AFTER the Kelvin event of Romulus being destroyed which means that the Picard show is in the Kelvin timeline and that is a death sentence for the show.
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they can just erase that though by ignoring both the kelvin timeline and the "new other" timeline of the Nimoy SPock who played with red matter

hollywood magic wand :)
 
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YJ02 said:
they can just erase that though by ignoring both the kelvin timeline and the "new other" timeline of the Nimoy SPock who played with red matter

hollywood magic wand :)
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Trust me, the fans will write fanfic to explain it away. :)
 
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At this point I'd rather see the Quentin Tarantino Trek that was once bandied about.
 
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Actually probably more like Pulp Fiction or Kill Bill I would hope.
 
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