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Gatefan1976

Well Known GateFan
Bluce Ree said:
Companies that truly do well reward their workers with good salaries and benefits.
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Do you mean companies like CCA, McDonalds and PepsiCo?
There are few "sweat shops", if any, left in this country.
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Of course not, it's not a sweatshop if you have to actually PAY your employees, sheesh :lol:
Tech companies are a prime example. They know and understand how to motivate.
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The tech field is an anomaly to an extent, it values independent thinking and has the "expected cost" to deal with it. If your computer blows a thingy-ma-bob, you expect to pay a lot to have it fixed, sorta like car mechanics.
When you walk into a company, there are common sense expectations. If you walk into Walmart for work, do not expect to be making $35/hr to scan items at a cash register or greet customers.
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Of course not, that would be silly. I *will* say however that "our here in socialist heaven" the pay rate for a shop assistant is around 18 bucks an hour. On the flip side, we don't burden our companies with some stupid notion that they should pay for our healthcare either. If you want private healthcare, you pay for it.
Walmart is not a high-end retailer. I'd you don't like your work conditions then f**k off and go elsewhere. Same for McDonalds or Booger King, etc.
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Some people do not have a choice dude, they simply don't have the "smarts" to do anything else, or there is no opportunity for them.

Banking structures are a completely different story. The disaster occurred here because of a complete lack of sufficient regulation and oversight. Unions would have done exactly shit for banks except created more reason to scalp their customers. My position on banking is that they should be regulated to hell. If you want my reasons, we can start a new thread.
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Go for it dude!!
I said regulation at first, but as I expected regulation would be seen as an impingement on a free market economy. AFAIK, banking and healthcare are the 2 industries that should have nigh on draconian regulation because they form the basis of nearly everything else to an extent.
I would love to hear you rant on this!!
 
Bluce Ree

Bluce Ree

Tech Admin / Council Member
Gatefan1976 said:
Do you mean companies like CCA, McDonalds and PepsiCo?
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I should qualify that statement with "commensurate to the job". You're not going to make big bucks pushing buttons on a register or pulling patties from a warmer tray. However, McD's does have a good benefits package for their full time employees.

PepsiCo is a unionized shop, by the way.

Of course not, it's not a sweatshop if you have to actually PAY your employees, sheesh :lol:
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You get my point.

The tech field is an anomaly to an extent, it values independent thinking and has the "expected cost" to deal with it. If your computer blows a thingy-ma-bob, you expect to pay a lot to have it fixed, sorta like car mechanics.

Of course not, that would be silly. I *will* say however that "our here in socialist heaven" the pay rate for a shop assistant is around 18 bucks an hour. On the flip side, we don't burden our companies with some stupid notion that they should pay for our healthcare either. If you want private healthcare, you pay for it.
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Minimum wage across Canada averages a little over 10$/hour. That means you're making at least $10/hour standing at the front door with your arms crossed greeting customers at Walmart. Canada is one country that has absolutely NO use for unions at all. They end up causing more damage in Canada than they do in the US but the federal government has brought down the heavy hammer to control them on more than one occasion by legislating their will. The US should look to Canada on how to control and strong-arm unions when they go too far.

Some people do not have a choice dude, they simply don't have the "smarts" to do anything else, or there is no opportunity for them.
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I'm not suggesting that if one doesn't like flipping burgers they should just start looking for a career on Wall Street. If you don't like McDonalds, go to Burger King. If you don't like it there, go to Walmart or Home Depot or Target. You follow? Retail jobs are not few and far in between, they are plentiful and begging.

There is also government sponsored job training.

Go for it dude!!
I said regulation at first, but as I expected regulation would be seen as an impingement on a free market economy. AFAIK, banking and healthcare are the 2 industries that should have nigh on draconian regulation because they form the basis of nearly everything else to an extent.
I would love to hear you rant on this!!
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If I'm gonna do my rant on banks and healthcare, it's best I do it in flame hell. I get way too passionate on the stupidity of the people and government in this country who are too goddamned obtuse to understand that certain industries will naturally abuse if not overseen and controlled. :icon_lol:
 
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