Wellll....in case you hadn't noticed, this IS the SAtar Trek Beyond (first trailer) thread.
Really?
You are -really- gonna pull that crap when we have derailed 3 threads already?
REALLY?
I do not have to prove Star Wars is not scifi. There is no question there.
There never was, but -someone- keeps bringing it up...........
Those are rules? Really? So why does Neville's feather explode when he says it?
Err, because he stuffed it up?
Why does the Excelsiors engines go tits up when Scotty removes a few screws?
Cause it got stuffed up.
How come the House Elf can levitate things by snapping his finger but Harry has to use a wand?
House elf magic is different to Wizard magic, it's EXPLAINED in the books, the books you have never read but form the basis of the movies.
Again, you just do not know what the hell you are talking about.
The books don't interest you, fine, the movies don't interest you, fine, but don't you dare use them as examples when you don't know what the hell you are talking about and expect anyone to take you seriously.
Wiki only gets you so far dude.
And they are in fantasy. Magic breaks the rules of science all the time, but it -never- breaks storyline consistency.
Sure, you can make a rule that the magic orb turns green when you have a Scooby Amulet, but red when you have a Googoo Ring. That means that somebody else should not be able to turn the orb green or red by just snapping your fingers. If they can, then new rules have to be made to explain that. It is not worth the argument. The magical world of Fantasy has no rules, generally speaking.
Utter horseshit.
Ignorant, arrogant, horseshit.
Tell you what sunshine, give me an example of this bullshit in -ONE- fantasy universe, and I might -consider- this load of tripe.
Science fiction has rules. It is anchored in actual science of today, and you cannot just break the rules on a whim like transwarp beaming did.
Yes you can.
You can use a deflector dish (a shielding emitter) to make an "interplexing beacon" (a communications array) out of materials found on a ship that causality rules should not exist (but it was protected in a "bubble", or slingshot around the sun to go into time travel.
What bullshit.
the Science of trek -serves- the story, just as magic serves the story in fantasy. One is more believable, yes, no argument.
You cannot have entire planets being made into weapons and then entering star systems without throwing the entire system out of order.
No one did. The comparison between the Death Star and the star-killer are even shown on screen and the star killer -did not move-. If you want to pick on something, explain why a stationary weapon can shoot a beam at FTL speeds, and use a sun as a power source, draining it to the point where it stops solar fusion. THOSE are magical bullshit, no argument.
How would one power and "fly" a planet sized weapon and put it under intelligent control? Ridiculous. But it's okay in Star Wars and I have no problem with it.
They don't, real simple.
If those rules were the ones established by the OT, then the latest movie broke a whole lot of them. Rey alone broke dozens, as did Finn and BB8 and the Starkiller weapon and every single person who used the Force (or a lightsaber). Jedis and Sith carry lightsabers...wait, no they don't...do they?
The OT is -not- the only source of canon. 1-3 are, TCW and Rebels are, and are a handful of books. ANYONE can use a Lightsaber, Greivious used 4 of the damn things in Ep 2. A lightsabre however focusses the force for a force sensitive being, something Greivious could not do.
Jedi and Sith are both force users, and yes they do use lightsabers.
What is your point?
Dude, Star Trek has ALWAYS been on the air, somewhere on earth, for 50 years. It went into syndication immediately after it's cancellation in 1969, and it's popularity brought the first movie, then the dozen that came later plus the four additional TV series and the cartoon. It turns 50 this year, not 16. Get real.
Who has been on the air constantly, for longer, so what?
It's fan popularity didn't bring it to the big screen, the success of Star Wars did that.
Doctor Who is not science fiction.
What?
No seriously........ WHAT?
You missed the point entirely.
No, your point was to show that ST can inspire people to do stuff in space, become engineers and scientists, your example was so bad however to be joke worthy. The Imperial March is supposed to inspire fear and dread, not exactly the music you use when you make an amazing breakthrough, or what to inspire hope and confidence.
Im not arguing here at all. I am on the Star Trek Beyond trailer thread hating on it. I did not say you were not a Trek fan. There is no opportunity for argument here. The trailer sucks, ergo I think the movie will also suck. That is just my opinion (as all my comments are). Where is the argument?
Oh, we are back on topic now?
It will suck.
I love Star Wars! I am not a rabid fan of it, but I am familiar with all of the official canon works (except any OFFICIAL books which may have been released recently). But this thread is not about Star Wars, is it?
You derail threads with innuendo, then claim innocence when people call you on it. Go back and read some of the arguments you have had with me, or Jim, or Yong, and you will find that in more occasions that I am sure you are aware of, it is -you- who derail the cart. I don't think you mean to, I don't even think you are aware of it most of the time, but other people are, and they notice it.