The Official Trailer is up - Godzilla 2014

[Joelist]

Of course you can't tell much from a trailer this short except that the idea of a Halo jump is a tad weird here. However, from what one can see this Godzilla does NOT look like a fraud like the Matthew Broderick film creature did (Godzilla fans call that one GINO - Godzilla In Name Only).

So here it is!

 

[Overmind One]

Of course you can't tell much from a trailer this short except that the idea of a Halo jump is a tad weird here. However, from what one can see this Godzilla does NOT look like a fraud like the Matthew Broderick film creature did (Godzilla fans call that one GINO - Godzilla In Name Only).

So here it is!

Meh...how can they do this after Pacific Rim? PR raised the bar quite significantly as far as kaiju go. I hope its good.

 

[Joelist]

Legendary Films did Pacific Rim and also has Godzilla 2014. I have hopes for Godzilla simply because the monster looks a LOT better than the stupid iguana in Emmerich's film. However, I also wonder how good it will be without a Kaiju geek like Guillermo Del Toro who completely understands the genre directing it.

 

[Overmind One]

Legendary Films did Pacific Rim and also has Godzilla 2014. I have hopes for Godzilla simply because the monster looks a LOT better than the stupid iguana in Emmerich's film. However, I also wonder how good it will be without a Kaiju geek like Guillermo Del Toro who completely understands the genre directing it.

I like the trailer!

 

[Bluce Ree]

Meh...how can they do this after Pacific Rim? PR raised the bar quite significantly as far as kaiju go. I hope its good.

The bar may have been raised but it's still only about a foot off the ground.

I'd rather see a sequel to Cloverfield than another revival/remake of a tired old shitty concept from yesteryear. I've grown so tired of the vomit coming out of hollywood lately.

The last movie I actually paid to see was Fast 6 and the next movie I'll probably pay to see will be fast 7.

 

[Overmind One]

The bar may have been raised but it's still only about a foot off the ground.

I'd rather see a sequel to Cloverfield than another revival/remake of a tired old shitty concept from yesteryear. I've grown so tired of the vomit coming out of hollywood lately.

The last movie I actually paid to see was Fast 6 and the next movie I'll probably pay to see will be fast 7.

Have you seen Pacific Rim?

 

[Bluce Ree]

Have you seen Pacific Rim?

Yes. I sat through the entire ordeal. Nice eye candy and that's about it.

 

[Overmind One]

Well, these movies are pretty genre specific, and they are definitely love it or hate it. I love all kaiju movies, and I have every single one ever made even before I was born. In that genre, Pacific Rim is the very best one ever made. But if you dont like kaiju movies, you wont like any of them really. I aint mad at ya.

 

[Bluce Ree]

Too many nonsensical stupidities.

- why not use the giant sword from the get-go ALL THE TIME?
- why not use that fist blaster from the get-go ALL THE TIME?
- why not just blow them from the sky instead of building dumb robots?
- why did I sit through this entire movie?

 

[Bluce Ree]

Well, these movies are pretty genre specific, and they are definitely love it or hate it. I love all kaiju movies, and I have every single one ever made even before I was born. In that genre, Pacific Rim is the very best one ever made. But if you dont like kaiju movies, you wont like any of them really. I aint mad at ya.

I don't mean to rag on the movie genre. It was fine for what it was when we were kids. I loved watching these kinds of movies when common sense was for adults. Today, I just see this as more Hollywood grasping at straws.

And you can't be mad at me because I did watch THE WHOLE THING before passing judgment.

 

[Joelist]

No worries Bluce. You're just not a fan of Kaiju movies. To a Kaiju movie fan a film like Pacific Rim was great simply because it is a great big love letter to the Kaiju genre. It looks great but more importantly it got the feel, tone and mood right. I just hope Godzilla 2014 does.

 

[Overmind One]

No worries Bluce. You're just not a fan of Kaiju movies. To a Kaiju movie fan a film like Pacific Rim was great simply because it is a great big love letter to the Kaiju genre. It looks great but more importantly it got the feel, tone and mood right. I just hope Godzilla 2014 does.

Im glad Godzilla was not in Pacific Rim. But they are going to have to explain where he came from in this movie. The idiotic lizard they had in the American version with Broderick at least had a plausible origin (as far as science fiction goes), but them making it a hermaphrodite and laying eggs and such... Godzilla can shoot "fire". He is taller than many skyscrapers, and they are going to have to tell us some how and why if they want him to be loved in the 21st century like he was for the past few decades. . He looks the same though! No mistaking him for any other creature. They even got his trademark screech right.

 

[Bluce Ree]

Im glad Godzilla was not in Pacific Rim. But they are going to have to explain where he came from in this movie. The idiotic lizard they had in the American version with Broderick at least had a plausible origin (as far as science fiction goes), but them making it a hermaphrodite and laying eggs and such... Godzilla can shoot "fire". He is takker than many skyscrapers, and they are going to have to tell us some how and why if they want him to be loved in the 21st century like he was for the past few decades. . He looks the same though! No mistaking him for any other creature. They even got his trademark screech right.

That's a complete contradiction to your views on Pacific Rim. It's basically saying exactly what I said is the reason why I disliked Pacific Rim. 21st century common sense was left at the back door by the trash chute.

 

[Overmind One]

That's a complete contradiction to your views on Pacific Rim. It's basically saying exactly what I said is the reason why I disliked Pacific Rim. 21st century common sense was left at the back door by the trash chute.

Au contraire! In Pacific Rim, they DID explain how the kaigu were on earth, and they also explained how and why the Jaegers were built. They gave both the kaiju and the Jaegers realistic limitations, and they even gave backstory to round it out. In all previous kaiju movies, the monsters simply "appeared", and shortly after that they made a beeline to Tokyo which was destroyed in almost every kaiju movie. Also, when the monsters died, they frequently either sank to the bottom of the ocean (to be revived later in another movie), or they were buried under rock and dirt, and were revived later. On occasion, they flew into space or morphed into something else, like Mothra.

Like I said, this is a genre unto itself. The rules of the genre were always very loose and these movies should be considered more fantasy than science fiction. But Pacific Rim changed all of that. Its the closest they have come to science fiction.

 

[Bluce Ree]

Au contraire! In Pacific Rim, they DID explain how the kaigu were on earth, and they also explained how and why the Jaegers were built. They gave both the kaiju and the Jaegers realistic limitations, and they even gave backstory to round it out. In all previous kaiju movies, the monsters simply "appeared", and shortly after that they made a beeline to Tokyo which was destroyed in almost every kaiju movie. Also, when the monsters died, they frequently either sank to the bottom of the ocean (to be revived later in another movie), or they were buried under rock and dirt, and were revived later. On occasion, they flew into space or morphed into something else, like Mothra.

Like I said, this is a genre unto itself. The rules of the genre were always very loose and these movies should be considered more fantasy than science fiction. But Pacific Rim changed all of that. Its the closest they have come to science fiction.

21st century common sense was thrown out. There was no reason why the sword and the fist blaster should not be used first on every encounter as they are clearly effective on a single blow. They could have come up with some contrived explanation but they didn't even give us that.

Also, robots to fight what clearly can be taken out with a bomb or missile from the safety of a plane makes no sense but I can let that one go since this WAS a robot movie.



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[Bluce Ree]

You can't have a double standard like "oh it's OK to have these childish concepts and oversights because it's the genre" then demand they explain how Godzilla shoots fire.


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[Joelist]

Actually the sword was not part of Gipsy's weapon loadout in the first fight - Mako added it when she supervised the rebuild. One can argue that they could have deployed it earlier versus Otachi and that could be a valid point. The plasma caster had shortcomings both spelled out in the film - limited ammunition, did not work underwater and short range. Plus as it turned out the Kaiju adapted and while it took three hits to take out Knifehead in the start of the film it took their entire ammo loadout to kill Leatherback later on. And in the final fight they DID go to the sword immediately. That was where Gipsy got blindsided by the fast swimming Kaiju while it was fighting another one and lost an arm, then subsequently gutted the swimmer with its other sword arm.

As to Godzilla, I don't know that they CAN reasonably explain how the creature breathes nuclear fire or how it absorbs unbelievable punishment and keeps coming back. And in a way they don't need to. What they DO need to do is get the Godzilla character right. Once they do that the rest is easier. Get the character/personality of Godzilla wrong and the movie implodes.

 

[Overmind One]

You can't have a double standard like "oh it's OK to have these childish concepts and oversights because it's the genre" then demand they explain how Godzilla shoots fire.


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Oh, we already know that. Its because Godzilla is the product of nuclear tests done after the end of WWII (Godzilla, 1954). His "fire" is radiation. We know he can procreate (Son of Godzilla, 1967). We already know a whole lot about Godzilla and all of the other kaigu. This genre is very VERY specific. Its like being a Trekkie. You can be very well versed on how a warp field is generated on a starship, even though there is no such thing as warp drive or warp cores or starships. Within this genre, there is definitely a canon and within that canon things have been fairly consistent. Pacific Rim rebooted the canon and anchored it a little more firmly in science. But sure, it is "out there" if you are looking for any semblance to reality.

 

[Bluce Ree]

As to Godzilla, I don't know that they CAN reasonably explain how the creature breathes nuclear fire or how it absorbs unbelievable punishment and keeps coming back. And in a way they don't need to.

See, that's consistent. You accept the genre for what it is, absolute fun nonsense that needn't be explained too thoroughly. If they do, it opens the whole thing up to too much scrutiny on other matters and destroys it.


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[Bluce Ree]

You can be very well versed on how a warp field is generated on a starship, even though there is no such thing as warp drive or warp cores or starships.

Yeah, not the same thing. One has elements of theoretical and actual science built into the genre and the other is just pure nonsensical fantasy.



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