The Last Ship - could've been worse
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ParagonPie
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We should do stamps of recommendation "Not as shit as we thought it was!"
YJ02
Well Known GateFan
out of the new shows this yr (at least the ones I am paying attn to/know about) I would say this, SALEM and I think TYRANT are all fair to good shows
To be a naysayer/devils advocate; real world, they can't be the "last ship". at any one time there are quite a few us nuke subs on patrol, normally submerged and normally in polar areas (for better reach/shorter flight time of missiles). Perhaps these may come into the plot at some time?
shavedape
Well Known GateFan
So this is a good show? I could use a new good show.
If you like shows without aliens or zombies then yeah, it's probably a good show. :jaded:
shavedape
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I thought it was only 4 months, or less, since the outbreak?
Also, and this might have been mentioned here already, but in the book the ship had a nuclear powered engine and no need to make dramatic refueling stops. Personally I like that scenario but I understand using it as a plot device. I just can't see them constantly using it as a gimmick as it will grow tiresome quickly.
I thought it was only 4 months, or less, since the outbreak?
Also, and this might have been mentioned here already, but in the book the ship had a nuclear powered engine and no need to make dramatic refueling stops. Personally I like that scenario but I understand using it as a plot device. I just can't see them constantly using it as a gimmick as it will grow tiresome quickly.
They were in the Arctic 4 months and they left after the outbreak started. Add in the time since the Arctic and such and we're definitely over 5 months heading towards 6. Subs typically are provisioned for about 30-45 days so.....
As to a nuclear surface ship, the only ones still in the USN are CVNs and having a CVN sent to the Arctic for a researcher would have looked REALLY bizarre.
YJ02
Well Known GateFan
perhaps, but others would have went out as replacements
again, i am pretty sure that tptb's didn't even consider it and if someone brought it up, then Michael Bay probably had a reaction like this
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I'm not so sure. Would the navy still be trying to run sub patrols once the pandemic hit places like New London? And when the subs ran out of food they would be forced to the surface.
That said, it is a solid show so far. And they actually did address the issue of trying to use the oil from the cruise ship - it is part of why they had to go to Guantanamo as the oil was very dirty. I did lookup the Arleigh Burke's and the gas turbines of that particular group of the class are multi-fuel so using diesel or other such oils is not an issue out of the box.
That said, it is a solid show so far. And they actually did address the issue of trying to use the oil from the cruise ship - it is part of why they had to go to Guantanamo as the oil was very dirty. I did lookup the Arleigh Burke's and the gas turbines of that particular group of the class are multi-fuel so using diesel or other such oils is not an issue out of the box.
Nothing bad is being said about this show on this thread, so I am going to watch it, and catch up on what I have missed.
OH WOW! Finally, a watchable, intelligent, scientifically plausible show that crosses it's T and dots it's i
The premise is chillingly believable.
The military and the military decorum is spot on.
The weapons we see, the tactics that are portrayed, the compartmentalization of the military vs the CDC is absolutely PERFECT.
The lack of gimmicks is refreshing.
The cast is superb, attractive and well balanced.
The camera work is PERFECT. A blend of static, dramatic video balanced out by just the amount of shaky cam at the appropriate moments, breathtaking scenery.
Im only halfway through episode 1 and Im hooked already. I had to post this since I was taking a short break.
The only thing I see here that will have to play out, is the course of this pandemic. They cannot run this show for more than 2 years without resorting to tropes, or introducing a mutation which becomes immune to the current virus. They need to terminate the story with either a cure or the passing of the mass deaths caused by the virus. They can make another show about society after the virus, but it cannot be called "The Last Ship"Until then, I am hoping these production values and this writing crew carry the show. I think they have a hit on their hands. Let's see of the ratings prove that to be true. Should we make a ball for this series? It looks like a few are watching it.
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shavedape
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I don't know that you need to make a ball for this one yet. I'm not a huge fan so far but I can see that it's fairly good and likable so I'm not rooting for it to fail. As it is I'm more intrigued with shows that are egregiously bad and deserve to die hence the interest in ratings counts. But this one gets a pass so far.
They got the interpersonal stuff right in this.
It isnt soap, it is genuine drama and it is wrapped in an excellent premise. The military collaboration on this is so obvious, it just makes me smile. These actors have it DOWN PAT. The way orders are given, the way they are doing the radio silence and the cautious measures they are taking in the absence of direction from the Pentagon...no guessing here. They did this thing right. And with no aliens, no gimmicks, and no camisoles or speedos. Im a fan. And you know what? This show actually qualifies as science fiction.
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The numbers seem to be about where they should be with a show of this calibre:
http://www.broadwayworld.com/bwwtv/...llion-Viewers-in-Live-3-20140701#.U7TgrP6VvPE
I am not surprised at all. They hit one out of the park with this. Finally, a show with a decent story, DIVERSITY, good writers and actors. It seems to have something for everyone. I cringed when I saw Al Qaeda in the second episode, but it did not dominate episode 2. I am a little bothered by how they are portraying the Russians in this show. I do not understand why they have made them the main antagonist, even though in actuality they would most probably pool resources with other technologically advanced nations than steal. Maybe it was easier for rogue elements to seize control of Russian military equipment and ships? It is not that big of a deal. The rest of the show has been superb so far...IMO.
http://www.broadwayworld.com/bwwtv/...llion-Viewers-in-Live-3-20140701#.U7TgrP6VvPE
I am not surprised at all. They hit one out of the park with this. Finally, a show with a decent story, DIVERSITY, good writers and actors. It seems to have something for everyone. I cringed when I saw Al Qaeda in the second episode, but it did not dominate episode 2. I am a little bothered by how they are portraying the Russians in this show. I do not understand why they have made them the main antagonist, even though in actuality they would most probably pool resources with other technologically advanced nations than steal. Maybe it was easier for rogue elements to seize control of Russian military equipment and ships? It is not that big of a deal. The rest of the show has been superb so far...IMO.
The basic idea is that as far as we know there are no governments operating. So the Russians are rogue definitely.
The Al Qaeda piece was really minor - at this point the men involved were just surviving high security prisoners who had gotten weapons and decided to try to have the place to themselves.
As to ratings, the encouraging part is they held the audience in week two - no drop off.
The Al Qaeda piece was really minor - at this point the men involved were just surviving high security prisoners who had gotten weapons and decided to try to have the place to themselves.
As to ratings, the encouraging part is they held the audience in week two - no drop off.
The Al Qaeda thing was done well...but the fact that they did it was questionable. Again, I am seeing this show weaving all sorts of elements into the show in a mostly successful attempt to appeal to a wide audience. There are elements for left wingers, right wingers, religious people, people of color, the LBGT community, and exercizes in Humanity. That is quite a large trophy to be handing to this show after just two episodes, but it deserves it. I could even see the ratings for this going UP from where it is.
I am still trying to place it in a genre. It is, as unlikely as it might seem, genuine science fiction. I would place it in the Science Fiction/Action Adventure genre, and add a toss of Post Apocalyptic to it. But since it is in contemporary time, and using conventional sets and locations, it feels more like something else. What I am grateful for:
No zombies, aliens or supernatural creatures,
Realism in terms of the military, the civilian portrayals, and the premise.
(Evidently) actual collaboration with the Navy on decorum and operations aboard the ship and on land.
Actual science being used to find the cure (synthesizing the vaccine, needing the primordial sample, etc). No magic here, no alien organism.
What a pleasant surprise for a new show!
So far the ratings are good for an easy renewal. TNT has to be especially encouraged that the audience held and there was no week two drop off like occurs a lot - that is a first sign it may have legs.
And I agree - I especially like seeing our military not being portrayed as buffoons or psychos for once. They do have navy advisors and unlike some other shows they seem to be actually listening to them.
Finally, they are getting the TONE and the atmosphere right so far. I hope they keep it up.
And I agree - I especially like seeing our military not being portrayed as buffoons or psychos for once. They do have navy advisors and unlike some other shows they seem to be actually listening to them.
Finally, they are getting the TONE and the atmosphere right so far. I hope they keep it up.
YJ02
Well Known GateFan
Nothing bad is being said about this show on this thread, so I am going to watch it, and catch up on what I have missed.
I could make stuff up
