Windows 10: The cover has been blown. EVERYONE is aware of the spying now.

Overmind One

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ooops GWX godawful wanker 10

;) ;) ;)

The icon should disappear as soon as you kill GWX.exe in the task manager. Pass your mouse over it...it might be a ghost icon not purged.
 

Tripler

Well Known GateFan
HAHA ...Your right .. It just disappeared with the mouse passover... It became CPU Usage icon ... COOL !!! I'm in win7 vm right now ...

:) :) :)
 

Tripler

Well Known GateFan
Went to the darkest side and now have spy 10...
This is older but informative and a must do if you own spy 10.
Had to switch for gaming and a new build ... I know ... It does seem fast tho but my build is pretty quick also .
Dumped AMD and it only runs linux for now . I may put 7 back on the AMD system .

 

Overmind One

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Went to the darkest side and now have spy 10...
This is older but informative and a must do if you own spy 10.
Had to switch for gaming and a new build ... I know ... It does seem fast tho but my build is pretty quick also .
Dumped AMD and it only runs linux for now . I may put 7 back on the AMD system .


Im gonna install this in a VM!
 

Tripler

Well Known GateFan
I am amazed that after every reboot or update that you have to re immunize windows every time with Spybot Anti -Beacon . There are 2 that keep turning back on and Beacon takes good care of the rest . Awesome program . I also use ExpressVpn . Another amazing program and I have that on every device in my house that I use . We can only try our best to keep some privacy in this day and age but it has become very difficult . Did you guys know that if I had gone into my bank account without shutting all this stuff off and using a vpn , microscum would see all my passwords and account info for my bank . Why would they have to have that info ? All my emails ? All my phone numbers ? No reason for them to have all my info unless I am applying for a friggin job there lol .

Good luck to all of us with this new spy10 os ...

PS ..holy crap it plays games well tho !!! My new build might be helping there a bit also . Fast on and fast off . Nice . Bit of a big learning curve with trying to find stuff tho . Made a shortcut icon to access this PC C drive and D drive . Why the hell was it in the files start link . That tells me nothing about finding drive C but there it is . Did they want to hide this from the lowly uneducated PC user with little experience with a windos OS ? ,,,uh yes ,,,For gamers we always have to have access to C drive or whatever drive your games are in to install addons and such . Steam does a lot now but not all addons are from Steam . jeepers

;) ;) ;)
 

Overmind One

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I am amazed that after every reboot or update that you have to re immunize windows every time with Spybot Anti -Beacon . There are 2 that keep turning back on and Beacon takes good care of the rest . Awesome program . I also use ExpressVpn . Another amazing program and I have that on every device in my house that I use . We can only try our best to keep some privacy in this day and age but it has become very difficult . Did you guys know that if I had gone into my bank account without shutting all this stuff off and using a vpn , microscum would see all my passwords and account info for my bank . Why would they have to have that info ? All my emails ? All my phone numbers ? No reason for them to have all my info unless I am applying for a friggin job there lol .

Good luck to all of us with this new spy10 os ...

PS ..holy crap it plays games well tho !!! My new build might be helping there a bit also . Fast on and fast off . Nice . Bit of a big learning curve with trying to find stuff tho . Made a shortcut icon to access this PC C drive and D drive . Why the hell was it in the files start link . That tells me nothing about finding drive C but there it is . Did they want to hide this from the lowly uneducated PC user with little experience with a windos OS ? ,,,uh yes ,,,For gamers we always have to have access to C drive or whatever drive your games are in to install addons and such . Steam does a lot now but not all addons are from Steam . jeepers

;) ;) ;)

I installed mine in a VM yesterday, but I have not yet run my sniffer on the running copy yet. When I check these in VMs, I have to run one in the VM and also on the host itself to check all traffic. I will let you know what I find. :)
 

Jim of WVa

Well Known GateFan
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Windows 10 has been busted. Not only has Windows 10 been busted, but the recent updates adding telemetry to Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 have been exposed as well. The updates add the spying elements to Windows to allow the OS to scan and index all of your folders (private or not) and to send the data to Microsoft. First, lets pin down exactly what this means, so that those who think this is tinfoil hat nonsense will continue to read: https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/servicesagreement/default.aspx

“We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to protect our customers or enforce the terms governing the use of the services".

Before going further, take a moment of silence to digest that. The reality is that if you run Windows 10 at all, there are no "private folders". This applies to Windows 7 and 8.1 if you have updates KB3075249 and KB3080149 installed.

KB3075249 “Update that adds telemetry points to consent.exe in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 ”
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3075249

KB3080149 “This update aligns down-level devices on the same UTC binary that’s released in Windows 10. This update would enable all the down-level devices to receive the software updates, design updates, and additional power and performance tuning.”
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3080149

If you have these updates, uninstall them if you do not want to be spied on. You do not have the choice if you are running Windows 10 because you MUST accept all updates and they are automatic and cannot be turned off.

:beckett_new050:

One solution is to use the computer in the nude and to give them a show. There are some "good" porn movies on the free sites; if I was using Windows 10, then I would be tempted to show the NSA a video of me jacking off to a free porn movie.
 

heisenberg

Earl Grey
After turning these things off, Microsoft STILL collects and sends data to Microsoft every time you type a word into the search box on the desktop or ask Cortana for anything (because you cannot use Cortana without turning on the spyware). With ALL of those settings off, Windows 10 will still scan all folders (there are no more private folders), and disable/destroy pirated software or illegally downloaded music).

BY DEFAULT, everything bad about Windows 10 will be active from the very first login. Reading the EULA is a horror story and worded in such a way as to obfuscate what access it grants and what you are agreeing to when you use the software.

More arrogantly obtuse "features"

Wifi Sense - shares your wireless access with contacts without asking.
Windows Update will use your internet connection as a P2P node to deliver updates to you or other PCs not on your network.

More recommended settings to disable and why:

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/laptops/fea...hould-change-immediately-after-install-744550

The point of this thread is to discourage people from using this blatantly intrusive and dishonestly created and distributed operating system. Microsoft is the BAD GUY in this, and there is no way to change that. When people install software, or a piece of hardware or buy a car, it should not be set to work against your privacy and your well being BY DEFAULT, even if you can fix it by changing settings.. The settings should be OFF by default.

I do not recommend this operating system AT ALL. The negatives outweigh the positives. Microsoft has had this problem with trust, and they have simply added more distrust to the already overwhelming perception. Windows 10 could kill Microsoft. Everyone who has upgraded to it that I know, has reverted to their previous OS. More than a few who had deleted the old OS to make room just decided to start over with a new install of the old OS. It's that bad. Enterprises are ignoring this OS like they ignored Windows 8 and 8.1.

To get a sample of what type of data is collected, one need only activate Family Settings and look at the report it generates on users it monitors.

When a for-profit company gives something away....

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Easy fix. Seriously though, why are you being so paranoid? lol you out of all people should know that one of your communication has and was compromised at some stage. It's the same how someone would have glanced at your records, made a judgement when you spoke to them over the phone or someone got too curious and viewed your bank statements or your spending habits. Get used to it. Nothing is going to change.

https://www.safer-networking.org/spybot-anti-beacon/
 

Overmind One

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Easy fix. Seriously though, why are you being so paranoid? lol you out of all people should know that one of your communication has and was compromised at some stage. It's the same how someone would have glanced at your records, made a judgement when you spoke to them over the phone or someone got too curious and viewed your bank statements or your spending habits. Get used to it. Nothing is going to change.

https://www.safer-networking.org/spybot-anti-beacon/
Well that was an ill-conceived comment! Windows 10 goes where no software has gone before. And yeah, me of all people understands what that means. It is intrusion like no other, and for you to dismiss it out of hand and not know the particulars is rather bold.

Perhaps you do not value your privacy as much as others? I can understand why people who do not mind being fully exposed to the NSA would not care. But for most Americans, the idea that everything being said, everything we do (camera), and everything we type, including passwords and chats to loved ones is private is a basic thing.

Dont ever call me paranoid again. Thanks. I get paid to secure systems from government prying, so it is a big deal evidently.
 

heisenberg

Earl Grey
Well that was an ill-conceived comment! Windows 10 goes where no software has gone before. And yeah, me of all people understands what that means. It is intrusion like no other, and for you to dismiss it out of hand and not know the particulars is rather bold.

Perhaps you do not value your privacy as much as others? I can understand why people who do not mind being fully exposed to the NSA would not care. But for most Americans, the idea that everything being said, everything we do (camera), and everything we type, including passwords and chats to loved ones is private is a basic thing.

Dont ever call me paranoid again. Thanks. I get paid to secure systems from government prying, so it is a big deal evidently.
I do value my privacy as well as others, but you got to be joking yourself if you think you can do anything to change anything.
 

Overmind One

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I do value my privacy as well as others, but you got to be joking yourself if you think you can do anything to change anything.

Not joking at all. You are acting as though Windows is some sort of granite or unchangeable entity. In case you forgot, it is a product created by people like me, and others who write code and who develop subroutines and databases and other related software which makes up an operating system. :) I can and do change and adjust Windows based computers and servers and phones (as well as Macs and Linux), and entire networks with mixed devices FOR A LIVING. It's what I do.

Having said that, I have worked for years within the government sphere, as a contractor. I have worked with many others with other IT disciplines while working in those government jobs. What exactly are you saying here? It seems to me like you prefer to throw your hands up and do nothing. That is your choice, but it is not based in anything like what you are saying. There is PLENTY you can do about the spying and data collection, hence the other ideas in this thread.

I'm surprised at you! I did not take you for being a leaf. (leaf = blown around in the wind, there but powerless).
 

heisenberg

Earl Grey
Not joking at all. You are acting as though Windows is some sort of granite or unchangeable entity. In case you forgot, it is a product created by people like me, and others who write code and who develop subroutines and databases and other related software which makes up an operating system. :) I can and do change and adjust Windows based computers and servers and phones (as well as Macs and Linux), and entire networks with mixed devices FOR A LIVING. It's what I do.

Having said that, I have worked for years within the government sphere, as a contractor. I have worked with many others with other IT disciplines while working in those government jobs. What exactly are you saying here? It seems to me like you prefer to throw your hands up and do nothing. That is your choice, but it is not based in anything like what you are saying. There is PLENTY you can do about the spying and data collection, hence the other ideas in this thread.

I'm surprised at you! I did not take you for being a leaf. (leaf = blown around in the wind, there but powerless).
I am saying that you can't do anything to stop it. Everywhere you go, your information is being collected and it's only a matter of time before that system gets compromised. One thing is for sure, you have to be an idiot or some moron that tries to hack into a government database.
You can thank your conservative friends for all the silly PC style laws/surveillance. You think that by taking a stance is going to change anything? Nope. Just wasting precious time after this.
 
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Overmind One

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I am saying that you can't do anything to stop it. Everywhere you go, your information is being collected and it's only a matter of time before that system gets compromised.

TRUE! However, not being able to stop it does not mean you cannot manage it (and thus gain some measure of control over it). The sun shines. But you can wear sunblock to prevent the UV from coming through. You can shade yourself from it. You can even go under complete cover and avoid it altogether. But no, you cannot stop the sun itself from shining. Good analogy? How about the tactics of animals you know like the chameleon, or the cuttlefish? They control the information you can gather by confusing and mimicking. Similar things can be and are done on computers, on the internet, and on your phone. The thing is knowing what and how information is being collected. You cannot stop the government from gathering information. They can LITERALLY watch all of us from orbit (or simply have computers do it). Have you ever thought about how many different computers and satellites and databases have to be engaged just to find your personal smartphone by typing in "Where is my phone" into Google? :) Only 32 GPS satellites orbiting earth can locate every object on the surface in real time, even when the things they are tracking are in motion. Oh, and in 3D (4D counting time).

Have you ever given any of that any thought? You can control WHAT information is given, if you know WHEN and WHY it is being gathered, and if the information being gathered is something that is a net positive or a net negative. I am not afraid of transmitting information, I am only protecting my control of it. I have become very good at seeing HOW the information is collected, and that is where computer security and network security comes into the picture for me.

One thing is for sure, you have to be an idiot or some moron that tries to hack into a government database.
You can thank your conservative friends for all the silly PC style laws/surveillance. You think that by taking a stance is going to change anything? Nope. Just wasting precious time after this.

Really? I think you have not really looked into it. You cannot pin it on conservatives or democrats or politicians at all. This is strictly Alphabet Soup gear. They do not give two shits who is President. They don't have to.
 
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Overmind One

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Of course...not surprised at all. What makes me laugh are the Microsoft defenders and naysayers who do not care enough about their privacy to do anything about it WHEN THEY CAN. In real life, if somebody hides in your home and watches you undress and surf and talk with your friends and lovers without being invited is a CRIMINAL.

This video spells it out even for those who are not geeks. Windows 10 is the worst spyware ever created. It's functionality is black hat hacker's dream. It is a detective's ultimate info source.

Using Linux as the primary operating system and keeping Windows and MacOS in VM "cages" gives you the control back.
 
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