The future of cinematic entertainment

How many years do you think it will be before we see this sort of tech?

  • Less than a year from now.

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  • A little over a year.

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  • Definitely at least five years.

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  • It will be closer to ten years than five.

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  • It will never happen!

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Lord Ba'al

Well Known GateFan
I wonder how long it will be before movies are no longer shot on film, and by that I mean recorded with camera's. In action movies many scenes are of course already computer generated, but I imagine at some point in the future those technologies will have become so advanced that it will no longer be possible to distinguish an actual person shot by a camera from a computer generated person. At that point the whole game will change.

You can make as many sequels/prequels as you like, characters won't age unless you want them to. Or you can make them look younger for a prequel of course. No need to pay actors millions of dollars for every movie, only the team of CGI artists needs to be paid, and if they get too greedy you can always get some new cheaper ones.

What I think will really be the kicker is that instead of watching a movie on a screen you could watch it from inside the movie itself! If it is all a simulation rather than a recording, you can simply pick a viewpoint from where to watch. The viewpoint will be pre-set by a studio of course and will continuously change as the movie goes on. If you're wearing a headset instead of watching on a screen, you can simply turn your head and look around the scene as it is unfolding. But that is not to say viewers can't choose between various viewpoints. Imagine watching the Avengers from the eyes of Iron Man himself. Flying around here and there looking at whatnot. Then switching over to the Hulk. Though Hulk might be more fun to watch from an outside perspective. Watching the same movie twice will be a thing of the past. The movie will be different every time you see it. Same story, but different perspectives.

How many years do you think it will take until we're there? Or do you perhaps think it will never happen?
 

Joelist

What ship is this?
Staff member
The interesting thing is over the past year or two we are seeing some audience blowback against too much CGI. And the result has been a return in part to using physical props and sets because even today's advanced CGI still sets off the "fake" filter in the human eye-brain.
 

Lord Ba'al

Well Known GateFan
The interesting thing is over the past year or two we are seeing some audience blowback against too much CGI. And the result has been a return in part to using physical props and sets because even today's advanced CGI still sets off the "fake" filter in the human eye-brain.

That may be so and perhaps that has merit. But what I was talking about is basically a new generation of entertainment. It would combine the tech used in modern gaming where entire worlds are computer generated in 3D with the art of cinematic storytelling. In a game world you can (generally and up to a certain degree) move around as you see fit and perform whatever actions are available to you. With a movie you are watching a story unfold which is structured in a way so that it appeals to our emotions. (well if it's done right anyway) The problem with movies currently is that they are the same over and over and over again, no matter how many times you watch them. Sure, you might notice something in a movie that you hadn't noticed during the times you watched it before and sometimes after watching a movie several times you can sort of take a step back and find a whole new layer in it that is sort of at a different level of abstraction. Those are generally the movies which have excellent writing. However, in its current form it will never go beyond that. There will never be the added possibilities that modern video gaming offers. In order to achieve something more, you would have to go computer generated, it simply can't be done with standard shooting, as advanced as it might be these days. The concept as I described in my prior post basically blends parts of the computer gaming world with the cinematic world. You won't be able to move around as freely as you would in a video game but that is also not the point of it. The point is to sit back and enjoy what enfolds in front of you, or behind you for that matter. You may be able to take a few "steps" in whichever direction to take a different viewpoint, but you can't run off into the distance to go look at something else. As such, in order to make the movie, it won't be necessary to generate the entire story world. It will only have to generate the part of the world that is applicable to the scene currently being viewed. The point is that you are watching a story in a way that is completely immersive, not for you to go about and do your own thing. The writers of the story will determine what is good and what is not. The fact that it is a computer generated world will offer the viewer options that will allow them to experience the story from different perspectives. It might give them points of view that the writers never even considered themselves. Basically it would also take writing to a whole new level because there are many more angles to the story to consider.

Imagine watching the Avengers movie through the eyes of Loki (well at least the parts where he is in a scene) and having Hulk slap you around as the puny god you are. :D
 

Overmind One

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That may be so and perhaps that has merit. But what I was talking about is basically a new generation of entertainment. It would combine the tech used in modern gaming where entire worlds are computer generated in 3D with the art of cinematic storytelling. In a game world you can (generally and up to a certain degree) move around as you see fit and perform whatever actions are available to you. With a movie you are watching a story unfold which is structured in a way so that it appeals to our emotions. (well if it's done right anyway) The problem with movies currently is that they are the same over and over and over again, no matter how many times you watch them. Sure, you might notice something in a movie that you hadn't noticed during the times you watched it before and sometimes after watching a movie several times you can sort of take a step back and find a whole new layer in it that is sort of at a different level of abstraction. Those are generally the movies which have excellent writing. However, in its current form it will never go beyond that. There will never be the added possibilities that modern video gaming offers. In order to achieve something more, you would have to go computer generated, it simply can't be done with standard shooting, as advanced as it might be these days. The concept as I described in my prior post basically blends parts of the computer gaming world with the cinematic world. You won't be able to move around as freely as you would in a video game but that is also not the point of it. The point is to sit back and enjoy what enfolds in front of you, or behind you for that matter. You may be able to take a few "steps" in whichever direction to take a different viewpoint, but you can't run off into the distance to go look at something else. As such, in order to make the movie, it won't be necessary to generate the entire story world. It will only have to generate the part of the world that is applicable to the scene currently being viewed. The point is that you are watching a story in a way that is completely immersive, not for you to go about and do your own thing. The writers of the story will determine what is good and what is not. The fact that it is a computer generated world will offer the viewer options that will allow them to experience the story from different perspectives. It might give them points of view that the writers never even considered themselves. Basically it would also take writing to a whole new level because there are many more angles to the story to consider.

Imagine watching the Avengers movie through the eyes of Loki (well at least the parts where he is in a scene) and having Hulk slap you around as the puny god you are. :D

I recently got a free VR cardboard viewer, and other than the lenses, it is just a folded thing. You install the Google VR app, then go to YouTube. With the app installed, a new VR icon shows up as a viewing option. Tap that and the phone screen splits into two, with an arrow indicating which way is up. A flap covered with foil cleverly manipulates the magnetometer in the phone to activate the VR menus you see while "inside". It is actually quite immersive. With headphones on, it's AWESOME. But the cardboard cant be strapped to your face like the better higher end ones.

With Google VR, you can be LITERALLY inside the theater, sitting third row center, looking up at the screen in 4K. Some of the videos are actually inside theaters, and you can even see the dimmed theater lights in the ceiling!
 

Lord Ba'al

Well Known GateFan
I recently got a free VR cardboard viewer, and other than the lenses, it is just a folded thing. You install the Google VR app, then go to YouTube. With the app installed, a new VR icon shows up as a viewing option. Tap that and the phone screen splits into two, with an arrow indicating which way is up. A flap covered with foil cleverly manipulates the magnetometer in the phone to activate the VR menus you see while "inside". It is actually quite immersive. With headphones on, it's AWESOME. But the cardboard cant be strapped to your face like the better higher end ones.

With Google VR, you can be LITERALLY inside the theater, sitting third row center, looking up at the screen in 4K. Some of the videos are actually inside theaters, and you can even see the dimmed theater lights in the ceiling!

Cool as that is, being inside a theatre is not the same as being inside a movie.
 
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