Stargate Cancellation's and relevant articles

[stclare]

Hokey dokey, so a most awesome guy on Syfy has compiled a list of links to articles that have interesting information on the cancellations. Why you say have you done this? well it becomes apparent when reading the different articles the thinking going on behind the scenes and hopefully gives everyone more information about what TPTB,SYFY & MGM were saying.

link 1 The cancellation of SG1 also includes relevant ratings for the show.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117948764?refCatId=1417

Link 2 - SYFY confirms an SGA movie

http://www.multichannel.com/article/134413-_Stargate_Atlantis_Run_Ends_On_Season_5.php

Space drama Stargate Atlantis will conclude its run on Sci Fi Channel after the current season ends in January -- but the network has greenlit a two-hour Atlantis movie that will allow the series to live on as a network franchise.
After airing on Sci Fi sometime next year, the untitled Atlantis movie will be sold as a home-video title by

link 3 a very interesting article with quotes from Mark Stern (scifi) and MGM

http://www.multichannel.com/article/124966-MGM_Insists_Stargate_Won_t_Shut.php

“There is not going to be [an 11th season] on U.S. television,” Stern said flatly. “Our contract with MGM prohibits it.”
A spokesman for MGM declined to comment on Stern’s claim.

link 4 - Bridge Studios manager discussing the destruction of SGA's Sets on 2/10/08

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/business/story.html?id=abec6209-6c7b-42e1-be65-2ea36946819d

BRIDGE CONTRACT: Heavy machines are smashing the Stargate Atlantis TV series' set in Bridge Studios' 40,000-square-foot effects stage.

link 5

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2006/08/mgm_considers_isg-1is_future.shtml

link 6

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/octboer-2-2008-what-the-future-holds-no-spoilers/

link 7

http://stargate-sg1-solutions.com/blog/2008/09/exclusive-qa-with-joe-mallozzi/

link 8

http://stargate-sg1-solutions.com/blog/2008/10/fx-stage-to-become-home-to-sgu/

link 9

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2008/04/istargate_universei_revealed.shtml

link 10

http://gateworld.net/news/2007/03/iuniversei_deals_with_ninth_chev.shtml

link 11

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/january-2-2009-brad-wright-answers-your-questions/

link 12

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2010/04/20/april-20-2010-spoilers-chocolates-and-cake/

link 13

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2011/05/an-open-letter-to-stargate-fans-from-syfy/

when I have more time i will try and time line these and pull out more interesting snippets. but please see what you think.

 

[Overmind One]

THIS IS GREAT STUFF! I dont know how I missed this thread...there is a great hour of entertainment gained by clicking those lnks. LMAO!

 

[stclare]

THIS IS GREAT STUFF! I dont know how I missed this thread...there is a great hour of entertainment gained by clicking those lnks. LMAO!

Thanks OM1 there is a lot of interesting snippets in there that when you compare side by side, show just how much Brad wanted SGU.

 

[YoshiKart64]

What annoys me here is how Sci-Fi/Syfy stopped there being any chances of another season of SG1. Stupid contract prohibiting it.

 

[Graybrew1]

What annoys me here is how Sci-Fi/Syfy stopped there being any chances of another season of SG1. Stupid contract prohibiting it.

Is that ongoing? Can there still be no more SG1 becaue of that?

 

[Overmind One]

Is that ongoing? Can there still be no more SG1 becaue of that?

I bet it was Brad who did that. To him, Stargate SG-1 and everything after it is his creation. I sort of agree to an extent, but the core concept still belongs to its creators Emmerich and Devlin, not Brad Wright or Gassener. I dont have any hard evidence.

 

[YoshiKart64]

I bet it was Brad who did that. To him, Stargate SG-1 and everything after it is his creation. I sort of agree to an extent, but the core concept still belongs to its creators Emmerich and Devlin, not Brad Wright or Gassener. I dont have any hard evidence.

It was syfy to stop it airing on another channel if it axed it. MGM were probably fine with it thinking that the show would never go another 5 seasons anyway, let alone be in a position to continue elsewhere.

It's a shame as another season or two of SG1 would have been amazing, a move might have even given it new life (again!).

 

[Bluce Ree]

It was syfy to stop it airing on another channel if it axed it. MGM were probably fine with it thinking that the show would never go another 5 seasons anyway, let alone be in a position to continue elsewhere.

It's a shame as another season or two of SG1 would have been amazing, a move might have even given it new life (again!).

Only if they would have gone in a different direction than the Ori. Somehow, a group of rogue ascended beings who need human worship to fuel their existence seemed really lame. When you break it down, it was basically about omnipotent beings who needed a constant ego boost. Not much more than that.

 

[Gatefan1976]

Only if they would have gone in a different direction than the Ori. Somehow, a group of rogue ascended beings who need human worship to fuel their existence seemed really lame. When you break it down, it was basically about omnipotent beings who needed a constant ego boost. Not much more than that.

Errr, Sounds familiar

 

[Gatefan1976]

It was syfy to stop it airing on another channel if it axed it. MGM were probably fine with it thinking that the show would never go another 5 seasons anyway, let alone be in a position to continue elsewhere.

It's a shame as another season or two of SG1 would have been amazing, a move might have even given it new life (again!).

Definately with Yoshi on this one, in fact, it would not suprise me if SGA has a similar deal in place. This is why while some of us agree V would have been a good fit for Syfy, it would have been unlikely for the ABC to allow it to happen. This is one area where I really dispise all the networks, these little frigging deals to stop production companies from shopping thier product around to cover thier (networks) own ass if another network can get a concept to work for them.

 

[Mr. A]

Of the links above, the most offensive one so far for me is that early SGU announcement by Brad Wright at GateWorld (link 9):

Stargate Universe Revealed!

Saturday - April 5, 2008 | by Darren Sumner & David Read

After much waiting, fans finally have the first solid info on just what Stargate Universe is all about! The third live-action television series in the Stargate franchise has been in the concept stage for more than a year now, and is being conceived by Stargate Atlantis co-creators Brad Wright and Robert C. Cooper.

"The idea of Stargate Universe is that it is set on a ship that was part of an Ancient experiment that was set in motion probably millions of years ago -- one that they never saw to fruition, but that we can," Wright told GateWorld exclusively. "They got busy with the whole ascension thing."

The experiment is "to send a ship across the universe, and to send one ahead of it to seed the galaxies with Stargates, and that they would one day use the ninth chevron to get there [to the ship]. And that's what Stargate Universe is."

Millions of years ago (before their conflict with the Wraith and possibly even before they moved Atlantis to the Pegasus Galaxy), the show would reveal, the Ancients sent out two ships: an automated vessel to place Stargates throughout multiple galaxies in our universe, and a second ship to follow up and explore.

A standard, 7-symbol gate address allows for travel within the same galaxy. Use of the Stargate's eighth chevron allows for travel to a different galaxy. And the ninth chevron will allow the team to reach this second, still unmanned Ancient ship.

The series was pitched to SCI FI Channel last fall, just before the writer's strike -- which put a hold on the project. "The pitch was received very well," Wright said. "[But] we pitched an expensive series -- the idea we have is not cheap. I think we've proven ourselves, so ... 'Can we please have enough money to do it right this time?' And, if not, then honestly I don't want to do it. Why do it wrong?"

The third Stargate series won't be set on Earth, or on a remote base, but on a ship that travels from galaxy to galaxy.

The strike and the potential cost of Stargate Universe are not the only reasons the show is not yet moving forward.

"Part of the reason it's taking a while is that Atlantis is currently on-going, and because we didn't want to go into development with anything during the writer's strike -- because it seemed inappropriate. Even though we're Canadian, we recognized it is for the American marketplace."

"Internally, Robert and I are a little bit torn, because we had such a great time making The Ark of Truth and Stargate: Continuum. Making one or two of those a year would be a damn fine thing to do! Honestly, it takes up a big chunk of time writing it, a big chunk of time making it, and then the post on a movie is more than twice as complicated as post on the biggest episodes. So it's not like you can just knock one off while you're making a television show. It's just too much."

Wright said that he is not anxious to return to a schedule that requires the Vancouver team to produce 40 hours of television each year, indicating that Stargate Universe may wait until Atlantis has concluded its run.

When the show does begin, Wright believes that it has to both move the franchise forward to attract new viewers, and remain true to the established formula. "It has to feel like Stargate, and it has to feel new. That's the tight rope, that's the balance you have to maintain, and that's the challenge.

"To put it in its simplest terms, if we had ever just done SG-2 as a series it would never have worked. It's not the C.S.I. model."

1- Was Brad wrong about the show he pitched or just plain lying?

2- So if SGU was "right this time", were SG1 and SGA "wrong"?

3- Need any more proof that SGA was cancelled to make way for SGU?