Paramount and CBS dropping lawsuit against Axanar!

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  1. Overmind One

    Overmind One GateFans Gatemaster Staff Member

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    Alec Peters is off the hook

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    In the most unlikely of events, the lawsuit from Paramount against Axanar is "going away":

    http://io9.gizmodo.com/paramounts-lawsuit-against-axanar-productions-star-trek-1777959978

    Excerpt from article:

    Justin Lin was vocal about this. I still think Alec Peters is an arrogant twit, but this means that Axanar will be produced after all, and fans will be able to make their own films again. JJ Abrams also had something to do with this, from what I understand.

    YAY!
     
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  2. Joelist

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    Makes one wonder what the behind the scenes component was on this? They probably had to sever Ares Studios or in some other way establish that all the raised monies are going to Star Trek stuff.
     
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  3. Overmind One

    Overmind One GateFans Gatemaster Staff Member

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    The article mentions that "fan production guidelines" will be produced, with all previously produced works being grandfathered in as it were. JJ Abrams is the one that made the announcement, and it was probably Justin Lin (who is a Trek fan) who made him realize that it was us fans who made Star Trek into a thing that could be franchised in the first place. Also, the sour grapes they have mashed over the past year have not created any love for JJ's films. Perhaps he thinks they will abandon his Trek films because of that? He may not realize that the real reason is because they suck. :)
     
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  4. heisenberg

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    It's because of the klingon thing and because it would damage the new star trek franchise too. However, I am still going to watch axanar. looks pretty badass.
     
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  5. shavedape

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    I was wondering how they were going to deal with the legal precedent that dropping this case would bring (allowing non-sanctioned ST productions to make money), but now it makes sense. Overall it is a good thing to allow fans to participate in the story as long as it doesn't get out of control. Wouldn't it be funny though if a fan film established something within canon? Now that I'd like to see. :icon_lol:
     
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  6. Overmind One

    Overmind One GateFans Gatemaster Staff Member

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    Well, it was fans who guided the scientific canon and many of the operational rules of all the other Trek stuff, and when Enterprise tried to ignore the fans they revolted and stopped watching the show. I have since rewatched the entire series, and it is actually pretty good! I don't like the Xindi arc, and the Suliban were lame to me. Also, they got T'Pol all wrong.
     
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  7. Bluce Ree

    Bluce Ree Tech Admin / Council Member

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    So ... more boob?
     
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  8. Overmind One

    Overmind One GateFans Gatemaster Staff Member

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    The ONLY real mistake they made with T'Pol was making her Vulcan. They probably figured they needed a Vulcan because they were following the TOS ensemble formula:

    Tripp = Scotty
    Dr Phlox = McCoy
    Hoshi = Uhura
    Malcolm = Checkov
    Travis = Sulu
    T'Pol = Spock
    Archer = Kirk

    The slots were all filled, but I think they were miscast.
     
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  9. Overmind One

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    Okay, here are the new Fan Film Guidelines (draft) from Paramount. The wording seems specifically tailored to stem what Axanar was doing which was not cool:

    http://www.treknews.net/2016/05/28/axanar-lawsuit-update-proposed-fan-film-guidelines/

    Proposed Star Trek Fan Film Guidelines

    1. There must be the following disclaimer at the end of each episode and in all promotional and marketing materials, on all fan production websites:
      Star Trek and all related marks, logos and characters are solely owned by CBS Studios Inc. This fan production is not endorsed by, sponsored by, nor affiliated with CBS, Paramount Pictures, or any other Star Trek franchise, and is a non-commercial fan made film intended for recreational use. No commercial exhibition or distribution is permitted.
    2. Fan productions may not sell, or give away as perks, any item with a Star Trek mark, logos or character, including, but not limited to, the words “Star Trek,” the Enterprise insignia chevron, images of the U.S.S. Enterprise, or any Star Trek trademark.
    3. Fan Productions may not use Kickstarter, Indiegogo, or any other commercial crowdfunding platform to raise money.
    4. Fan productions may take donations, but all donations must go to the production of the fan film and may not be used to pay any of the principals.
    5. Fan Productions may pay professional cast and crew for their time working on the production.
    6. If a production uses a SAG member, it must become a SAG New Media Signatory.
    7. Finished fan films may be no longer than 50 minutes in length, the approximate duration of TOS episodes.
    8. Fan film makers give to CBS an unlimited, unrestricted license to use their films, or any portion thereof, in any format CBS should deem appropriate.
    From what I can see, these guidelines leave all the other fan made productions exactly where they have been in legal terms, and they have effectively killed any "feature-length" productions. It also eliminates the use of GoFundMe or Indiegogo or Kickstarter. This already impacts Axanar, since they were shooting for a feature length movie.
     
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  10. Joelist

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    Agreed. Numbers 3 and 4 are aimed directly at Axanar. Also note in #1 commercial exhibition and distribution are prohibited. It has to in essence be free to view.
     
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  11. Bluce Ree

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    Split the movie into two 50 minute parts that can be viewed back to back.
     
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  12. shavedape

    shavedape Well Known GateFan Staff Member

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    There you go using that wily Canadian logic again. ;) :P
     
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  13. Bluce Ree

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    Hey, you know we are a resourceful people. It takes real ingenuity to turn this:

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    ... into this:

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    ... all while keeping the entire country's pollution index to a fraction of just one of your busy villages. :icon_lol:
     
  14. shavedape

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    Funny how you didn't use Montreal as an example. :ronnon_whistling:
     
  15. Bluce Ree

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    I will NEVER use Montreal as an example. Quebec is the Texas of Canada. Rampant stupidity and kings of corruption. If I woke tomorrow morning and saw that Quebec fell into the ocean, I would go about my day as if nothing happened.
     
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  16. Overmind One

    Overmind One GateFans Gatemaster Staff Member

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    OMG, is that real? Is that how Toronto looks now??? In 10 years, it appears to have doubled in size in terms of tall buildings.
     
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    The Greater Toronto Area has grown quite a bit in the last 10 years. Best of all, it's so damned clean and safe and cosmopolitan.
     
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  18. shavedape

    shavedape Well Known GateFan Staff Member

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    I don't have a problem with this list of requirements. It makes perfect sense from a legal standpoint. And it still allows for fans to participate in the ST-verse.
     
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  19. Overmind One

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    I almost missed this one:

    1. If a production uses a SAG member, it must become a SAG New Media Signatory.
    All the actors who appeared in Axanar who had been in DS9 or Voyager or TNG are SAG. They are going to have to re-write it or go through the gauntlet which is pretty much designed to sift the little guys out:

    SAG New Media Signatory

    https://www.sagaftra.org/production-center/newmediasignatoryinstructions
     
  20. shavedape

    shavedape Well Known GateFan Staff Member

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    Right, but if you're using SAG actors you're pretty much no longer a "little guy".
     
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