YJ02
Well Known GateFan
Ok, I think most of you have id'd at least two pet peeves of mine; when people talk about the military or use it in a movie/show and have no idea of what they are saying/portraying. And Korea.
If someone wants to have the Korean situation has part of their plot in a film or show, then please use the actual ground truth of what is going on there.
Example, in this OLYMPUS HAS FALLEN movie, Korean terrorists (laughable on its own. The S Korean government nit picks the extra curricular activities of its citizens so much that they would know if a "terrorist cell" as well trained and equipped as Kang's existed.) attack D.C--first they take out F22s (?) with chain guns mounted in a C130, then they strafe DC and the White House with a C130.
Their "ground forces" get into the White House and also have infiltrated the S Korean Prime Minister's team (here is a reality of Korea-no guy with long hair or a pony tail is going to get any government job in South Korea).
After all of this spectacular mess, Kang demands that the US 7th fleet be deployed out of the Sea of Japan (um, no Korean of either side would ever refer to that body of water has the Sea of Japan-its the East Sea) and that all 28,500 US forces be taken off the DMZ and ultimately Korea overnight!
FIRST-there are NO us forces "on" the DMZ. That mission was turned over to the South's military 20 yrs ago.
Second-Those 28,500 "troops" is the number of all US forces in Korea. So, even if they were on the dmz, it wouldn't be that many. That number includes USAF, the US Naval activity and all of the US Army support and logistics units that go all the way down to Pusan.
The closest any US Army unit is to the DMZ is about 20 miles and that is about 1 or 2 infantry battalions and a couple of artillery units. Everyone else has been re stationed way south at USAG Humphreys (that brand new base I put pics of up in an other thread)
Thirdly- Just like Obama couldn't pull all forces out of Iraq "overnight" -as the media would have you believe. So too is it impossible to pull that many people, equipment, trucks, hummvees, tanks and APC's in so short a time.
I mean, yeah its a movie. But in the age of all of this info being in a quick google search, isn't it a bit unforgivable for TPTB's to still be getting away with such fantasy? If you are going to use a real world sit. in a story then get it right.
And, I know, they "f" up so many other things as well; police and other jobs are shown way over the top, etc.
Besides these peeves, the idea that anyone could actually pull this off is pretty laughable. There is so much firepower in the White House, I do not think any one could even get through the fence.
And when they had Kang say "It took your military 14 minutes to get here, it took my men 13 to take the Whouse". The equipment they were showing rolling and flying in (Stryker vehicles and armed OH 58d's helo's) is, in reality, way further away then 14 minutes. The closest Army units with that (I am saying Army because that is what the movie used) is at Ft Bragg NC, like a 5 hour drive down I95.
If your going to lay a fantastical work of fiction on us, fine, just get the easy to find facts correct.
If someone wants to have the Korean situation has part of their plot in a film or show, then please use the actual ground truth of what is going on there.
Example, in this OLYMPUS HAS FALLEN movie, Korean terrorists (laughable on its own. The S Korean government nit picks the extra curricular activities of its citizens so much that they would know if a "terrorist cell" as well trained and equipped as Kang's existed.) attack D.C--first they take out F22s (?) with chain guns mounted in a C130, then they strafe DC and the White House with a C130.
Their "ground forces" get into the White House and also have infiltrated the S Korean Prime Minister's team (here is a reality of Korea-no guy with long hair or a pony tail is going to get any government job in South Korea).
After all of this spectacular mess, Kang demands that the US 7th fleet be deployed out of the Sea of Japan (um, no Korean of either side would ever refer to that body of water has the Sea of Japan-its the East Sea) and that all 28,500 US forces be taken off the DMZ and ultimately Korea overnight!
FIRST-there are NO us forces "on" the DMZ. That mission was turned over to the South's military 20 yrs ago.
Second-Those 28,500 "troops" is the number of all US forces in Korea. So, even if they were on the dmz, it wouldn't be that many. That number includes USAF, the US Naval activity and all of the US Army support and logistics units that go all the way down to Pusan.
The closest any US Army unit is to the DMZ is about 20 miles and that is about 1 or 2 infantry battalions and a couple of artillery units. Everyone else has been re stationed way south at USAG Humphreys (that brand new base I put pics of up in an other thread)
Thirdly- Just like Obama couldn't pull all forces out of Iraq "overnight" -as the media would have you believe. So too is it impossible to pull that many people, equipment, trucks, hummvees, tanks and APC's in so short a time.
I mean, yeah its a movie. But in the age of all of this info being in a quick google search, isn't it a bit unforgivable for TPTB's to still be getting away with such fantasy? If you are going to use a real world sit. in a story then get it right.
And, I know, they "f" up so many other things as well; police and other jobs are shown way over the top, etc.
Besides these peeves, the idea that anyone could actually pull this off is pretty laughable. There is so much firepower in the White House, I do not think any one could even get through the fence.
And when they had Kang say "It took your military 14 minutes to get here, it took my men 13 to take the Whouse". The equipment they were showing rolling and flying in (Stryker vehicles and armed OH 58d's helo's) is, in reality, way further away then 14 minutes. The closest Army units with that (I am saying Army because that is what the movie used) is at Ft Bragg NC, like a 5 hour drive down I95.
If your going to lay a fantastical work of fiction on us, fine, just get the easy to find facts correct.
