Low Carb Eating...

[Overmind One]

Would you believe it if I told you my cholesterol levels are normal?


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YES. Because your body is at a much higher activity level, and your metabolism is going to be much higher at it's "resting" state than mine because you have so much muscle. In addition to that, you eat the right foods and I seriously doubt you are consuming transfats (the cholesterol magnifier!).

I eat right, have low blood pressure, but Im still not exercising enough. Not even as much as last year. Right now, cholesterol and other blood panels are in normal range.

 

[shavedape]

Ah, I made it myself. I try to bug my wife as little as possible when it comes to my eating habits because they're so frequent.

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[Illiterati]

I had blood and urine work done a couple weeks ago, and everything was fine, except for slightly low blood sugar (tested after a fast, so that made sense). Even my cholesterol was shiny (both "good" and "bad"). Not even pre-diabetic, which frankly, surprised me.

I used to be on Metformin (off-label use) for the PCOS, but the doctor didn't want to put me on that, because my blood sugar wasn't high. That's one of the reasons I decided to finally buckle down and go low carb again, officially.

 

[Joelist]

Here's an interesting shake:

1 cup of Tofu
5 tbsp Ipecac
5 tbsp Croton Oil
25 Ageless Male tablets
2 tbsp all natural peanut butter (for flavor)

Blend at high speed for 3 minutes, then put in refrigerator to 4 hours. Pour into glass and drink.


Do this once a day and your blood panels will have a most interesting change.

 

[Illiterati]

Ipecac?

Drink it and then suffer projectile vomiting?????

Pardon me if I politely decline.

 

[Joelist]

Well Illiterati, it would cause your blood panels to change.....

 

[Illiterati]

Well Illiterati, it would cause your blood panels to change.....

You notice that the first thing I noticed was the ipecac.

I think it's the Mom in me. LOL

 

[Illiterati]

Just got back from Costco, where we picked up a couple very large packages of beef for $2.21 a pound. So damned tender, it's almost scary.

We trimmed them a wee bit, cut them into more reasonable pieces, vacuum sealed them and put them in the freezer (except for the monster we're having tonight for dinner.

Bliss.

 

[Overmind One]

Just got back from Costco, where we picked up a couple very large packages of beef for $2.21 a pound. So damned tender, it's almost scary.

We trimmed them a wee bit, cut them into more reasonable pieces, vacuum sealed them and put them in the freezer (except for the monster we're having tonight for dinner.

Bliss.

Guilt free joy. I found older threads where you said you had done low carb before. You already know the drill! Steaks are carb free and wonderful!

 

[Illiterati]

Having some Japanese green tea to relax a bit before bed.

Long day, so happy for a chance to just sit back and let myself veg a bit.

 

[Overmind One]

Having some Japanese green tea to relax a bit before bed.

Long day, so happy for a chance to just sit back and let myself veg a bit.

Great stuff, green tea. I drink a lot of iced green tea. You made me want to make some!

 

[Illiterati]

Great stuff, green tea. I drink a lot of iced green tea. You made me want to make some!

We get this stuff at the Marukai Market either in Little Tokyo or in Redondo Beach.

Hint, hint.

 

[Overmind One]

We get this stuff at the Marukai Market either in Little Tokyo or in Redondo Beach.

Hint, hint.

Fancy Pants! I just get the boxes of 100% green tea from Smart and Final, and although the tea is not premium green tea, it is 100% green tea and makes good iced tea (the majority of the way I drink it). Is it loose tea you get at Marukai? And are you talking about the one on Sepulveda near the wildlife preserve?

 

[Illiterati]

Fancy Pants! I just get the boxes of 100% green tea from Smart and Final, and although the tea is not premium green tea, it is 100% green tea and makes good iced tea (the majority of the way I drink it). Is it loose tea you get at Marukai? And are you talking about the one on Sepulveda near the wildlife preserve?

Probably. We tend to visit there after we go to Maruhide Uni Club.

 

[heisenberg]

Oh and a huge tip: buy virgin cold pressed coconut oil. It will cost you about $9.00 for 16oz, and that jar will last you about 4 months. Here is the tip:

Coconut oil will raise your metabolism naturally. Take one whole tablespoon of it every day (it tastes good!) Within 5 minutes, your face will feel warm and your body will feel "revved up". It speeds up the metabolism because it is almost 90% saturated fat. For a low carber who is in ketosis, it is like rocket fuel. Eating this fat is HEALTHY.

Coconut oil is the healthiest oil on earth. Healthier than pure virgin olive oil. It is almost magical in it's properties. It will improve your hair, nails, skin, digestion, and when you use it for oil pulling, you can even reverse gum disease (dark gums) and make them a nice healthy pink again.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304418404579469762543729116

http://naturalsociety.com/single-serving-coconut-oil-brain-health-alzheimers-fats/

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/02/dining/02Appe.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Coconut oil has zero carbs.

FALSE! Whilst coconut oll does contain medium chain fatty acids, it still contains 90% saturated fats. Therefore, it is NOT the most healthiest form of oil because it contains a shitload of saturated fat that is known but not limited to causing type 2 diabetes & insulin resistance.

 

[Overmind One]

FALSE! Whilst coconut oll does contain medium chain fatty acids, it still contains 90% saturated fats. Therefore, it is NOT the most healthiest form of oil because it contains a shitload of saturated fat that is known but not limited to causing type 2 diabetes & insulin resistance.

Saturated fats are GOOD for you. I challenge you to find any article from any source which backs up your claim that coconut oil is unhealthy on ANY level, including it's saturated fats levels. Coconut oil does NOT cause diabetes nor does it have any impact on insulin resistance or blood glucose levels.

Coconut oil does not break down in high heat, and thus cannot produce transfats.

There is NO correlation between saturated fats and heart disease: http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2010/01/13/ajcn.2009.27725.abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9635993
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19364995

Populations which eat a lot of coconut oil are healthier than those which use mostly vegetable oil. Saturated fats are not only good for you, they are REQUIRED for a healthy body. Virgin coconut oil (cold pressed, unrefined) reduced total cholestrol, increased HDL and lowered LDL. I know this because I am living life on the other end of low carbing and I am healthier than many 25 year olds.

It shocks me that so many people who wish to eat and live healthier do not properly research the foods they eat (and those they avoid). If you want to scrutinize a dietary lifestyle, then focus your sights on vegetarians and vegans. It is they who are following an unnatural dietary regimen for human beings.

If you have real evidence to present, backed by real world data and the nutritionists who have thoroughly tested coconut oil (as I posted in my links), then please do. Otherwise, you are just blowing the dog whistle. Vegetable oil (made from corn) is Big Agro's product. Each person who switches to coconut oil stops buying vegetable oil and that is their motivation. Big Agro is not about to start growing coconut groves and lose their substantial investments in corn and soybean oil production.

 

[Overmind One]

Question for those who have really tried low carbing for at least a month:

Did any of you stay on the low carb diet (one actually programmed out like Atkins, South Beach, or a nutritionist program), and NOT lose weight? I dont think anyone will be able to say yes. Weight gain happens when you come off the low carb lifestyle or experience "carb creep" (going past your individual carb limit). I lost 60 pounds low carbing.

Ways to verify progress using empirical data:

Quarterly doctor's visit while low carbing. Get blood work, especially the lipid panel.
Have cholesterol measured.
Buy a blood pressure monitor.

Ways to verify progress using individual observation:

Notice how your clothes fit.
Note energy levels and quality of sleep.
Note a change in your nails and hair and skin tone.

The only people you want to listen to are those who are getting results. The person following the low fat diet is still going to be fat in three months, while the low carber will have lost around 30 pounds. The low fat dieter will have higher blood sugar levels and lower overall energy levels. A doctor telling you to eat low fat or to avoid fats is not somebody you want to listen to. He or she would rather sell you a prescription to "manage" your self-inflicted condition rather than empower you to cure it completely.

 

[heisenberg]

Saturated fats are GOOD for you. I challenge you to find any article from any source which backs up your claim that coconut oil is unhealthy on ANY level, including it's saturated fats levels. Coconut oil does NOT cause diabetes nor does it have any impact on insulin resistance or blood glucose levels.

Coconut oil does not break down in high heat, and thus cannot produce transfats.

There is NO correlation between saturated fats and heart disease: http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2010/01/13/ajcn.2009.27725.abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9635993
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19364995

Populations which eat a lot of coconut oil are healthier than those which use mostly vegetable oil. Saturated fats are not only good for you, they are REQUIRED for a healthy body. Virgin coconut oil (cold pressed, unrefined) reduced total cholestrol, increased HDL and lowered LDL. I know this because I am living life on the other end of low carbing and I am healthier than many 25 year olds.

It shocks me that so many people who wish to eat and live healthier do not properly research the foods they eat (and those they avoid). If you want to scrutinize a dietary lifestyle, then focus your sights on vegetarians and vegans. It is they who are following an unnatural dietary regimen for human beings.

If you have real evidence to present, backed by real world data and the nutritionists who have thoroughly tested coconut oil (as I posted in my links), then please do. Otherwise, you are just blowing the dog whistle. Vegetable oil (made from corn) is Big Agro's product. Each person who switches to coconut oil stops buying vegetable oil and that is their motivation. Big Agro is not about to start growing coconut groves and lost their substantial investments in corn and soybean oil production.

Gladly. Satruated fats are bad because they accumulate in the body.
1. Natural Medicines Comprehensive Database Web site. http://therapeuticresearch.com/home.aspx

2. Food Quality Research Unit, Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia (UKM), Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

3. S. A. Hashim, S. S. Bergen, K. Krell, and T. B. van Itallie, “Intestinal absorption and mode of transport in portal vein of medium chain fatty acids,” Journal of Clinical Investigation, vol. 43, article 1238, 1964.

4. American Dietetic Association. Position of the American Dietetic Association and Dietitians of Canada: Dietary fatty acids. J Am Diet Assoc. 2007;107:1599-1611.

http://metabolicprecision.com/articles-1/coconut-oil-does-the-science-support-the-claims

http://metabolicprecision.com/articles-1/learn-the-fats

 

[Overmind One]

Gladly. Satruated fats are bad because they accumulate in the body.
1. Natural Medicines Comprehensive Database Web site. http://therapeuticresearch.com/home.aspx

2. Food Quality Research Unit, Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia (UKM), Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

3. S. A. Hashim, S. S. Bergen, K. Krell, and T. B. van Itallie, “Intestinal absorption and mode of transport in portal vein of medium chain fatty acids,” Journal of Clinical Investigation, vol. 43, article 1238, 1964.

4. American Dietetic Association. Position of the American Dietetic Association and Dietitians of Canada: Dietary fatty acids. J Am Diet Assoc. 2007;107:1599-1611.

http://metabolicprecision.com/articles-1/coconut-oil-does-the-science-support-the-claims

http://metabolicprecision.com/articles-1/learn-the-fats

There is a whole lot more evidence that coconut is the healthiest natural oil available than there is that there are any negative effects from it's use. I posted links from extensive government studies. Here they are again:

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2010/01/13/ajcn.2009.27725.abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9635993
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19364995

I can give personal testimony to it's healthy effects and back it up with medical evidence. That website...Metabolic Precision. They sell their special "system" to a membership at cost. Their main goal is not to educate you about nutrition, but to sell their products and services.

This blurb disturbed me:

This set of paragraphs contains outright lies. No other way to say it. Oh, and I like the way they locked out the right click so I could not copy the text. But beyond the lies about coconut oil not affecting the cholesterol ratios (notice how he says "appears" and does not cite a source), he suddenly veers off into some political statement about third world countries and what is driving the dollar. WHAT? I guess his paid members get to read even more nonsense. But my favorite paragraph is the last one, where he warns to beware of "internet nutrition gurus", and encourages people to look at peer-reviewed research. . What difference does it make who is making the money on what? We are talking about HEALTH here. Coconut oil is healthier than most any other natural oil including olive oil.

If the knowledge is not free, and the "peer reviewed research" is missing, as it is from this article at this link you posted, then it is suspect. No links in the article to these "peer-reviewed studies":

http://metabolicprecision.com/articles-1/coconut-oil-does-the-science-support-the-claims

Too many other scientific sources support the healthy benefits of coconut oil vs other oils, and there is far more data to analyze which has been collected from far larger samples from many different populations. And I don't have to pay anybody for a "system".

 

[Overmind One]

Those links

1. Natural Medicines Comprehensive Database Web site. http://therapeuticresearch.com/home.aspx

This link is bogus. It leads to a company called Theraputic Research which sells diagnoses to patients in order to prescribe medicines to them based on those diagnoses. They are a (small) private corporation made up of pharmacists. For profit.

2. Food Quality Research Unit, Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia (UKM), Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

This entity is a tiny research unit within National University in Malaysia.

3. S. A. Hashim, S. S. Bergen, K. Krell, and T. B. van Itallie, “Intestinal absorption and mode of transport in portal vein of medium chain fatty acids,” Journal of Clinical Investigation, vol. 43, article 1238, 1964.

That reference speaks for itself.

4. American Dietetic Association. Position of the American Dietetic Association and Dietitians of Canada: Dietary fatty acids. J Am Diet Assoc. 2007;107:1599-1611.

The American Dietetic Association was disbanded and no longer exists. It is now the Dietetic Associations Food and Nutrition Information Center, and there is no article on that entire website supporting negative coronary health associated with the saturated fats found in coconut oil.

So...why did you swallow this nonsense?