Insomnia suffers do we have any here?

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  1. heisenberg

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    Are there any insomnia suffers here? Note that insomnia just does not mean that you get sleep but get 6-8 hours of sleep but still feel tired/forgetful irritable?
     
  2. Lord Ba'al

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    You could perhaps say I was sort of an insomniac from when I was about 10 years old (maybe earlier and I just don't remember it) until at least well into my twenties. Going to bed and not being able to fall asleep, then finally falling asleep like an hour or even less before having to get up again. Sometimes not sleeping at all. Although admittedly some of it may have been my own fault due to all night gaming. I started that at a very young age, say 10. These days I tend to have far less trouble falling asleep, although sometimes it still happens.

    For example, just a few days ago my stepdaughter had to take a 3am bus to get to the airport. I figured I'd escort her to the bus station, so I went to bed at like 23:30 and set my alarm for 02:15. We left at 02:30 and I arrived back home at about 03:30. Went straight back to bed coz I had to get up and go to work in the morning. I intentionally turned off some of my alarms as the first one would normally go off at 05:30 and then every ten minutes until 06:40, which is the final alarm and if I'm not out of bed by then I'm in deep shit. I laid in bed exhausted but I just couldn't get any sleep. Then at 06:00 my alarm went off, I shut it off and waited for the next one ten minutes later. Shortly after the first alarm went off I finally fell asleep. (Right at the point where I really did not want that to happen anymore!) Ten minutes later I woke up by the next alarm, turned it off, then fell right back asleep. That repeated until 06:40.

    I am no stranger to the concept of feeling extremely tired yet not being able to sleep. I am thankful that it only rarely still happens these days compared to what I used to experience.
     
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  3. Overmind One

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    I have sleep issues only when I am stressed. I have no problem falling asleep during those times, but I wake up in the middle of the night (frequently with cold sweats). Once awake, going back to sleep results in a "light sleep" which I remain awake but with my eyes closed and muscles relaxed. Hard to describe. But there is usually no mystery to me why I am stressed, so that goes away.
     
  4. Lord Ba'al

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    Cold sweats could be a withdrawal symptom.
     
  5. Overmind One

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    Could be sugar withdrawal...I recently went back on Atkins. Nothing else I do involves anything which might cause a withdrawal effect. I no longer smoke, don't do any heavy drugs and don't drink. Also I have a fur blanket which might be keeping me a bit too warm!.
     
  6. heisenberg

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    Get a sleep test done. Both of you might have sleep apnea. The main cause of you being starch/sugar craving is that you are not getting enough sleep. It has nothing to do with what you eat or being on atkins. The high protein diets actually help prevent diabetes. If you do have it, don't be a cheapo and skim on the machine. It's not a scam.
     
  7. Overmind One

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    No sleep apnea here. That is 90% of the time caused by being overweight. I am overweight right now, but not that much. Maybe 30 pounds....and dropping (thankfully :)).

    I am getting enough sleep. But I wanted to comment on the times when I haven't.
     
  8. Lord Ba'al

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    I am also getting enough sleep in general. These days when I don't get enough sleep it's usually because I just stay up too late. Case in point, today. A friend of mine came over at 16:30 yesterday. He just left, 07:00 next day. We just spent the whole night having discussions about all kinds of things. I should really go to bed now but I'm not even feeling that tired anymore, while from around 21:00 I was yawning so strongly now and then that you'd think I would have fallen asleep right there sitting on the sofa. I'm sure though that if I do lay myself down in a few minutes I won't have any trouble falling asleep. That might be an entirely different story tomorrow night though, or rather tonight since the next day already started hours ago.
     
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  9. Lord Ba'al

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    Back up. Initially woke up at 13:30 so that's pretty much 6 hours of sleep on the dot. Could have gotten up as I felt rested enough. Deciced not to and managed to fall back asleep for another 3 hours. Total time in bed (trying to be asleep) was 9 hours and 15 minutes. I know that because of the Youtube video I had playing on my phone which started from 0:00. I actually feel less rested now than I did when I woke up at 13:30, and this is after having had a shower. I'll be fine though, no worries.
     
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  10. PussyGalore

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    I was told by a rheumatologist that cold sweats, especially at night, are a symptom of cancer. It's not a joking matter he said. He was very fire and brimstone about it. Once should get checked out if this is happening on a regular basis he said.

    On a related note, perhaps the latest SyFy programming is giving people cancer? It certainly seems to be malignant in many ways.
     
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  11. PussyGalore

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    1. Eliminate caffeine.

    2. Take some classes in meditation and relaxation techniques. Do NOT just watch a couple Youtube videos on the subject. Actual interaction on a regular basis (weekly classes) with a trained professional works best.

    3. Change your dietary habits. Some people can't sleep on an empty stomach. Are you eating properly? How about the items you ingest? Do you eat meat? Dairy? Or are you eating low-cal veggies as your main source of nutrition?

    4. Eliminate "blue light" at night time. Get an amber (blue blocker) filter for your phone and also your computer. Or, wear some blue blocker glasses at night when you watch TV and are exposed to harsh light. (The "blue" rays affect your circadian rhythm.)

    5. Reduce stress! Study stoicism and adopt an "I don't give a f*ck" mindset. Trust me, it will help with dealing with those harsh thoughts about work and relationships that swirl in your brain as you lie there in the dark. (This is where those meditation techniques will come in handy.)
     
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  12. Lord Ba'al

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    That sounds serious. Definitely worth looking into for a person who has cold sweats a lot. Thankfully I don't. Only had them after going cold turkey. Could be a week or maybe two for me and then it's like it never happened.
     
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  13. PussyGalore

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    Cold turkey on what? I hope you're not talking about opiates or something like that. That should only be done under a doctor's supervision. I know of someone who tried to go cold turkey and she vomited so much blood she died due to venous loss. I don't know the technical term but something ruptured in her esophagus or part of her stomach they said. I guess her roommate found her two days later because she had her bedroom door closed and the roommate just assumed she had got up and gone to work that morning. The entire bedroom had to be cordoned off and cleaned by one of those bio-hazmat teams because there was blood on almost every surface from the projectile vomiting. The sad thing is that no one really knew how bad her addition was and she didn't get professional help and it ended very badly. It's a shame because she was a nice girl with a degree in art therapy and she wanted to use her skills to help children.
     
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  14. Lord Ba'al

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    That's a sad story indeed. I was talking about just weed. And more recently I guess cafeine.
     
  15. Rac80

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    there's menopause - that causes my insomnia issue! why do I always get hot flashes only in the summer? Even on meds! :P I find a good book can fill those empty hours- have been known to read myself to sleep! Hubby is very good at taking the book out of my hand without waking me up! :D
     
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  16. PussyGalore

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    Many unhappy and disgruntled husbands have been known to drug their wives in order to quell their "uppity" ways. I'm not saying that's what he's doing to you, but you may want to think twice before drinking or eating anything he prepares in the evening. Unless of course you're enjoying the good nights sleep you're getting, then by all means carry on.
     
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  17. PussyGalore

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    Weed isn't physically addictive so you should be able to shake its grip on you fairly easily if you are of strong mind.
     
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  18. Overmind One

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    Sugar is addicting, weed is not. Nicotine is also addictive, and so is caffeine.
     
  19. PussyGalore

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    First stress gives you insomnia and then it leads to night terrors when you finally do fall asleep. It's a vicious circle that can only be overcome with stress reduction. Please don't allow the stress of insomnia to morph into this malady. Take steps to heal yourself. Now this man knows of what he speaks, please listen to him:

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  20. Azaliarazor

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    I am total opposite. I can sleep like 20 hours in a day if I don't have to work for a few days. I loooooove sleep. This being said, when really stressed or depressed, I am lucky if I can get four hours a night. I can go up to bed and toss and turn and wake up like three times a night, and just push through like this for a few days till I pretty much pas out for a day when I have time to catch up. It always catches up in the end.

    On the other subject..about caffeine. That is a bitch for withdrawal. When I was pregnant, I quit it. It reacted very badly to the change in my body's chemistry at this time. I had horrible headaches for a month and was beyond irritable for probably a few weeks. Since I have quit smoking too, I can say, it is a close second to it's addictive nature and the physical draw lasted longer for my caffeine than it did for my nicotine. The hardest part of quitting smoking was the mental aspect, but the caffeine was a physical pain and took much longer to overcome. Caffeine is really a very addictive drug and sometimes I am shocked at something that in larger dosages is classified as a narcotic , aka speed, but in smaller dosages are sold on the shelves in the forms of lattes, espressos, cappuccinos, and worse yet these energy drinks like Red Bull and Monster. People load up on this stuff and because it is in smaller dosages and addictive they just pay mountains to chug down 3 of these things an hour to get the high they want. It really is a controlled substance that is probably a multi-billion dollar industry that can never be shut down but really should be better regulated. One sip of these drinks for me, would put me in a hospital, since my body never bounced back after pregnancy and became hypersensitive to all forms of caffeine or anti-histamines. This is why I know how powerful they can be.
     
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