Disney/Netflix No More

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  1. Tripler

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  2. Overmind One

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    We saw this coming. :) The streaming landscape is going to end up like cable did. Separate streaming channels costing a certain amount each will be available, and then some platform like Roku for TV or Roku devices will allow you to add the channels and tune into them individually. This means the end of services like Netflix and Hulu. Good luck with that though! HBO seems to believe they deserve $14.00 a month for subscribing. LOL! No, they are definitely not worth that. Disney has lots of cool stuff, but they better be careful what they charge.
     
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  3. PussyGalore

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    I think Disney has a big enough library that they could charge top dollar and they will probably end up as one of the winners in the future streaming wars. You're right when it comes to Netflix and Hulu I think. They will most likely lose market share, reorganize and then get swallowed up by Disney or Amazon.

    All these streaming services will not be able to sustain themselves as stand-alone entities in the long run. They will have to be curated under a single service as you suggested, like Roku. Just look at CBS No Access. I can't see a future for that service as a stand-alone streaming service. Who in their right mind would pay for that service AND Netflix AND Amazon AND Disney AND Hulu, etc. That's just not going to happen with most people. And playing the shell game of jumping from service to service, cancelling one service then activating another one, just to see a certain show will grow tiresome.

    The bottom line is that customers want simplicity and companies know this. Aggregating the various streaming services into a single entity is a no-brainer. It's going to happen. It will only be a matter of time. (Yes there will probably be several streaming companies to choose from but like cable and satellite companies they will have access to the same programming for the most part. The differences between these companies will be "cosmetic" and won't really amount to much difference at all. [Anti-Trust laws will require there to be several different companies offering streaming services.])

    *I think that the ala carte option will be a major factor in how the TV landscape changes in the coming years. I might be wrong and people might be happy with paying one lump sum for a whole viewing package. But personally I like the option of being able to pick and choose exactly what I want to stream.
     
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  5. heisenberg

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    Good luck getting me on cable or any streaming service. :). I ain't paying these assholes any money for so called 'entertainment'. Most of the new shows suck ass. They are all stupid.
     
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    Netflix never saw the sale of fox coming. The fact that they started their own service is giving alarm bells that things are about to get extremely competitive for netflix. I don't doubt that they will merge with another company, but it depends on which one. Imagine if Comcast bought Netflix lawl. Pretty sure Netflix will be asked to cough out a lot of money to keep certain titles on Netflix but most likely, Disney will start to rip apart a lot of the titles on Netflix and Netflix will be forced to buy more crappy B to C class movies and more Shit from India and South East Asia until they get more original content on Netflix. Now, it's going to prove to be very risky to put new original content on Netflix so they'll probably play it safe after a few big budget blockbusters has been made. Right now, they have the money to blow as much as they want, but I don't see this being sustainable.
    I feel sorry for those people who are going to loose their jobs though. This restructure is going to slaughter some low end jobs.
     
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  7. Overmind One

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    If Apple or any large for-profit media company buys Netflix, commercial-free as standard will definitely go away, and so will I. If I can no longer get commercial free service for $7.99 that is not made up of Bollywood and bargain bin 2-for-1 video deals, I will dump Netflix.
     
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    Netflix is done. All the studios making up it's catalog of stuff can make their own channels and that is what they are doing.
     
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    netflix is too big to fail. These days, companies that are not brick and mortar usually can have the assets transferred over with a click of a mouse button and it's the same with netflix. If netflix does suffer, it will get bought out by Apple and others.
     
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    Entropy has set in, Netflix is already failing, the facts are there.

    1. They're recklessly spending insane amounts of money on productions that aren't that good.

    2. They're losing huge chunks of their catalog that appeal to American/western subscribers. Additionally, their streaming service is woefully lacking in first run studio releases. You're lucky to get one major movie every 4 - 6 months or so.

    3. They're loading their catalog with cheap, obscure, foreign titles that don't appeal to their American/western subscribers.

    4. Their search feature is ridiculously designed to overlap into numerous genres so it looks like they have a huge catalog of choices when in reality it's the same bad movies simply placed into every hole they can find. When you browse thru selections you will come across the same movies over and over and over and over. It's a cynical attempt to deceive subscribers. A worthwhile service doesn't have to deceive its subscribers.

    Netflix can pretend that they're doing great but the truth is obvious. They are going to have to merge with another company in order to remain a player in the streaming game. There's simply too much competition on the horizon for them to do anything else. Disney is going to stomp them into oblivion if they continue to go it alone.
     
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    If Netflix is sold or is bought out, I count that as a fail. If Netflix was really as big as you say, they would have bought Hulu or another streaming service. They are the ones on the block being inspected by buyers. Not a win!
     
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    All of this. :) Netflix is not going to last in it's current form and it cannot sustain increased subscribers with less media and a shrinking availability of sources to draw from.
     
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    And their original content isn't going to save them. Netflix subscribers watch all that original crap because they don't have any other choice right now. But as competitors pop up people are going to be switching in droves to more exciting options. Disney has a HUGE library and the ability to make more and better stuff. Once Disney is going full bore why would anyone keep Netflix, unless of course they like wasting money?

    I just don't see Netflix as having the juice to run with the big boys in the future. They have to merge in order to survive, there is no other choice.
     
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  14. heisenberg

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    Yes, but they are buying shit from China/India and other places from SEA which has seen a surge in the middle class workers and they gouge on popcorn/pepsi/coke and pizza all day while being brainwashed to watch shit from hollywood.
     
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    So, you are saying that you believe that non-US subscribers will keep Netflix afloat? That is possible, but not sustainable IMO.
     
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    These organisations invented the bloody word organisation. They are Organized but we are not. That's why we are slaves to them and we work for them. We follow by their rules not ours. Even if you avoid Netflix, it will find its way in your life or in your head or in your wallet in one form or another. It's unavoidable. Netflix is huge based on market cap and the amount of marketshare it has. Hulu was already a competitor, but what Netflix did what Hulu didn't was to go overseas. Hulu is owned by Fox which is now the property of Disney...now you know why Futurama/simpsons and a lot of the fox shit started to disappear from Netflix. This is why...
     
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    For the moment, they have money from share holders through the capital raising and investors, but since there is going to slaughter session soon which could take up to a year to do, Netflix is in damage control. Which is why you saw them giving Bright a second movie already and probably paid an insane amount of money to Will Smith to be in but now they're branching out to the Olympics and sports it seems which is a good idea too since Sports is extremely competitive and so restrictive because it's own by the cable networks who pay billions each year but they also have david letterman. best thing to do is to turn off the TV for good and do the stuff you like and stop distracting yourself from this idiot box.

    http://www.broadcastingcable.com/news/currency/netflix-stream-nbc-olympic-preview-series/171081

    https://www.indystar.com/story/ente...h-netflix-show-guest-barack-obama/1007972001/

     
  18. heisenberg

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    They have this cringeworthy show though

     
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    This series could have been something great, but the acting and the writing just brings the whole show down...

     
  20. heisenberg

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    This is what's going to happen to netflix and like all great ideas. They meet their impending doom.

     
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