should jury duty be compulsory?

[heisenberg]

I have been called up for a second time for jury duty service, and I personally think it's a waste of 7-8 hours I won't ever get back. Infact, most cases will last between 7-10 business days and I have to bust my ass everyday there and seeing what ever horrible shit or what crime some moron has committed.

For living a free society, I hate being forced to do things like this. Many people don't share the same opinion about jury duty, but I think forcing people to stuff like this goes against what democracy stands for.

I have the same opinion about voting too. Just like everything in life, it should be a choice and shouldn't be forced towards everyone, but they don't want to change the legislation to make jury duty/voting voluntary. Not just here but there in the US too. I know voting is voluntary there in the us, but it's not here. If you don't attend without a valid excuse, you are either thrown in jail and/or given a massive fine/held in contempt.

No politician will ever think about making it voluntary here. Pity really.

 

[Overmind One]

I have been called up for a second time for jury duty service, and I personally think it's a waste of 7-8 hours I won't ever get back. Infact, most cases will last between 7-10 business days and I have to bust my ass everyday there and seeing what ever horrible shit or what crime some moron has committed.

For living a free society, I hate being forced to do things like this. Many people don't share the same opinion about jury duty, but I think forcing people to stuff like this goes against what democracy stands for.

I have the same opinion about voting too. Just like everything in life, it should be a choice and shouldn't be forced towards everyone, but they don't want to change the legislation to make jury duty/voting voluntary. Not just here but there in the US too. I know voting is voluntary there in the us, but it's not here. If you don't attend without a valid excuse, you are either thrown in jail and/or given a massive fine/held in contempt.

No politician will ever think about making it voluntary here. Pity really.

I do not think jury duty should be compulsory. But I think voting should. It is not, in the United States, but it should be IMO.

 

[Bluce Ree]

I have been called up for a second time for jury duty service, and I personally think it's a waste of 7-8 hours I won't ever get back. Infact, most cases will last between 7-10 business days and I have to bust my ass everyday there and seeing what ever horrible shit or what crime some moron has committed.

For living a free society, I hate being forced to do things like this. Many people don't share the same opinion about jury duty, but I think forcing people to stuff like this goes against what democracy stands for.

I have the same opinion about voting too. Just like everything in life, it should be a choice and shouldn't be forced towards everyone, but they don't want to change the legislation to make jury duty/voting voluntary. Not just here but there in the US too. I know voting is voluntary there in the us, but it's not here. If you don't attend without a valid excuse, you are either thrown in jail and/or given a massive fine/held in contempt.

No politician will ever think about making it voluntary here. Pity really.

Show up drunk and bandaged yelling out racial slurs.

 

[Gatefan1976]

Show up drunk and bandaged yelling out racial slurs.

Out here???

Way to kill the Judicial system you twit.

 

[Gatefan1976]

Damn, lost my previous post

 

[Gatefan1976]

I do not think jury duty should be compulsory. But I think voting should. It is not, in the United States, but it should be IMO.

Yeah, trial by media is so much more entertaining, and you don't have to get off your arse to do it!!!

 

[heisenberg]

I do not think jury duty should be compulsory. But I think voting should. It is not, in the United States, but it should be IMO.

Why though? Voting should be a choice shouldn't it? We all know all politicians are all the same. They all want power. They can't get 25% of their promises done, so what good is to vote for them?
The last case I was going to do was going to last for 6 months! I couldn't do it so I asked justice in the supreme court(second highest court in Aus) to be excused, she was okay by it, but really, that case was messed up. Kidnapping/rape/torching human corpse/car hijacking. I am glad I got out of it. I hope I don't get something as messed up like that though.

 

[Overmind One]

Nothing irritates me more with regard to the vote than people who whine about the government but did not vote, than illegals here who demand "rights" they do not have.

 

[Overmind One]

Why though? Voting should be a choice shouldn't it? We all know all politicians are all the same. They all want power. They can't get 25% of their promises done, so what good is to vote for them?
The last case I was going to do was going to last for 6 months! I couldn't do it so I asked justice in the supreme court(second highest court in Aus) to be excused, she was okay by it, but really, that case was messed up. Kidnapping/rape/torching human corpse/car hijacking. I am glad I got out of it. I hope I don't get something as messed up like that though.

When the vote is compulsory, then the outcome of it is truly representative of the will of the people. But that vote needs to be protected in the most secure of ways, like they protect money. The official census should correlate with the voting numbers too. I think that it should not be a choice but should be mandated like vaccinations, needing a license to drive and being able to use and live within the United States infrastructure as a citizen under the Constitution. Voting is the quintessential defining element of any democracy.

 

[Gatefan1976]

Why though? Voting should be a choice shouldn't it? We all know all politicians are all the same. They all want power. They can't get 25% of their promises done, so what good is to vote for them?
The last case I was going to do was going to last for 6 months! I couldn't do it so I asked justice in the supreme court(second highest court in Aus) to be excused, she was okay by it, but really, that case was messed up. Kidnapping/rape/torching human corpse/car hijacking. I am glad I got out of it. I hope I don't get something as messed up like that though.

Hardly really "compulsory" when you can get out of it if you need too, is it.

 

[Gatefan1976]

I do not think jury duty should be compulsory. But I think voting should. It is not, in the United States, but it should be IMO.

participation in the legal system is no less important to a democracy than voting your leaders.

 

[heisenberg]

Hardly really "compulsory" when you can get out of it if you need too, is it.

Actually that is if you have a valid excuse, but the whole idea is still forced upon and not a choice.

 

[Gatefan1976]

Actually that is if you have a valid excuse, but the whole idea is still forced upon and not a choice.

Yes, I know that.
Would you prefer we allowed people with agenda's to sign up for it and let them decide?

 

[shavedape]

Compulsory jury duty sucks but how else are you going to get an objective jury of your peers?

 

[Gatefan1976]

Compulsory jury duty sucks but how else are you going to get an objective jury of your peers?

Who ever said the jury system was objective??

 

[shavedape]

Who ever said the jury system was objective??

Believe it or not that's the intent of the American legal system, "innocent until proven guilty" and "jury of one's peers". It developed as a response to the monarchical beast that we rightfully shrugged off (and which you folks still bow down to, go figure) back in the late 1700's.

Are our respective legal systems perfect? No, of course not, but neither are they kangaroo courts like one gets in North Korea. And having jury pools culled from the everyday masses is how we try to make the legal process objective (or at least get close to objectivity).

 

[Gatefan1976]

Believe it or not that's the intent of the American legal system, "innocent until proven guilty" and "jury of one's peers". It developed as a response to the monarchical beast that we rightfully shrugged off (and which you folks still bow down to, go figure) back in the late 1700's.

Are our respective legal systems perfect? No, of course not, but neither are they kangaroo courts like one gets in North Korea. And having jury pools culled from the everyday masses is how we try to make the legal process objective (or at least get close to objectivity).

Did you miss my agreement somewhere?

 

[shavedape]

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Did you miss my agreement somewhere?

No, I thought you missed my agreement.

 

[Gatefan1976]

No, I thought you missed my agreement.

I got your agreement, I did not "get" the rest of your argument/sarcasm which ran counter to your agreement.
Look, I know you would love to be the meat in Bluce and my Spoon duel, but there has to be a better way to go about it..............

 

[shavedape]

I got your agreement, I did not "get" the rest of your argument/sarcasm which ran counter to your agreement.
Look, I know you would love to be the meat in Bluce and my Spoon duel, but there has to be a better way to go about it..............

I so don't want to know what a "Spoon duel" is.

Look, let's just both agree that next time we find ourselves on a jury we will vote to fry the bastard. Better to be safe than sorry, eh wot? :encouragement: