UFO-a-Go-Go!

Annoyed

Surly Old Curmudgeon
Considering the sheer numbers of galaxies, star systems in the universe, it is the height of arrogance for us to believe we are the only place intelligent life has developed or will develop.

I figure the light speed barrier will fall eventually, so another species could have traversed the distance. But if they rose & fell millions of years ago, or millions of years from now, we might be more isolated by time than we are by distance.
 

Overmind One

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Considering the sheer numbers of galaxies, star systems in the universe, it is the height of arrogance for us to believe we are the only place intelligent life has developed or will develop.

I figure the light speed barrier will fall eventually, so another species could have traversed the distance. But if they rose & fell millions of years ago, or millions of years from now, we might be more isolated by time than we are by distance.

I agree. But when and if they ever do come here, I highly doubt they will appear to dumb people living in the backwoods, and then pull stunts like darting in and out of bayous only to shoot off into space. Nor would I see them secretly abducting morons and wiping their memories. Many of the dumb people gave their lies away when they claimed that they saw heaven or angels claim that the "aliens" quoted from the Bible or said that the aliens had a message for Mankind but they only shared it with somebody named Eunice from Critterville, Ok.

I think that any advanced beings visiting earth would most likely appear very prominently in the most populated area containing the most technology and promise for communication. Common sense logic. If you want to know something about Las Vegas, do you head for the lights or do you take some lonely dim side street and talk to somebody named Bubba?
 

Annoyed

Surly Old Curmudgeon
I think that any advanced beings visiting earth would most likely appear very prominently in the most populated area containing the most technology and promise for communication. Common sense logic. If you want to know something about Las Vegas, do you head for the lights or do you take some lonely dim side street and talk to somebody named Bubba?
If it were up to me, I'd conceal myself and observe the locals until such time as I decided to reveal myself to them, but I would know a great deal about them before ever making that choice.

As far dumb backwoods hicks, they may be so far above us that they wouldn't know a backwoods hick from an ivy league scholar.
 

Overmind One

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If it were up to me, I'd conceal myself and observe the locals until such time as I decided to reveal myself to them, but I would know a great deal about them before ever making that choice.

As far dumb backwoods hicks, they may be so far above us that they wouldn't know a backwoods hick from an ivy league scholar.

Why would you conceal yourself if you had made such a long journey to get here? I try to imagine the motivations of an alien race in visiting another planet or system, and the only two I can think of is acquisition of more resources or colonization (even if in the form of co-existence). And my instruments on the home planet would detect the technology which has the capability of transmitting electromagnetic energy which means radio and cell towers, broadcast antennas and lasers directed into space. All probes I would send would home in on those signals (not a bonfire in the backwoods). I would be interested in the city centers and the large concentrations of lifeforms, not the sparsely populated undeveloped areas. For all I know, those areas are not populated because of disease and/or contamination.

If we as humans found intelligent life on say...Europa or Titan, would we purposely conceal ourselves or would we send probes right to the source of any detected life? After assessing the threat of contact, we would attempt to communicate, not abduct one of them and take off back to earth. See where Im coming from?
 
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Joelist

What ship is this?
Staff member
Here is the TRUE "UFO a go-go".....

 

Bluce Ree

Tech Admin / Council Member

Quote from the article:

Carl Sagan: I personally have been captured by the notion of extraterrestrial life, and especially extraterrestrial intelligence, from childhood. It swept me up, and I've been involved in sending space craft to nearby planets to look for life and in the radio search for extraterrestrial intelligence.

You know, with a little clever editing ...

Carl Sagan: I personally have been captured by ... extraterrestrial life, ... from childhood. It swept me up, and I've been involved in sending space craft to nearby planets to look for life and in the radio search for extraterrestrial intelligence.
 

Gatefan1976

Well Known GateFan
Why would you conceal yourself if you had made such a long journey to get here? I try to imagine the motivations of an alien race in visiting another planet or system, and the only two I can think of is acquisition of more resources or colonization (even if in the form of co-existence). And my instruments on the home planet would detect the technology which has the capability of transmitting electromagnetic energy which means radio and cell towers, broadcast antennas and lasers directed into space. All probes I would send would home in on those signals (not a bonfire in the backwoods). I would be interested in the city centers and the large concentrations of lifeforms, not the sparsely populated undeveloped areas. For all I know, those areas are not populated because of disease and/or contamination.

If we as humans found intelligent life on say...Europa or Titan, would we purposely conceal ourselves or would we send probes right to the source of any detected life? After assessing the threat of contact, we would attempt to communicate, not abduct one of them and take off back to earth. See where Im coming from?
If alien life is anything like humanity, and has gone through similar nodal points in history, the LAST place I would send an explorer is to an area with heavy concentrations of dickheads with firearms. ONE "hillbilly" with a shotgun is far less of a danger than a police/military force looking for someone to shoot and/or dissect.
 

Annoyed

Surly Old Curmudgeon
Why would you conceal yourself if you had made such a long journey to get here? I try to imagine the motivations of an alien race in visiting another planet or system, and the only two I can think of is acquisition of more resources or colonization (even if in the form of co-existence). And my instruments on the home planet would detect the technology which has the capability of transmitting electromagnetic energy which means radio and cell towers, broadcast antennas and lasers directed into space. All probes I would send would home in on those signals (not a bonfire in the backwoods). I would be interested in the city centers and the large concentrations of lifeforms, not the sparsely populated undeveloped areas. For all I know, those areas are not populated because of disease and/or contamination.

If we as humans found intelligent life on say...Europa or Titan, would we purposely conceal ourselves or would we send probes right to the source of any detected life? After assessing the threat of contact, we would attempt to communicate, not abduct one of them and take off back to earth. See where Im coming from?

I'm assuming that anyone who has mastered the skills and energies required to traverse interstellar distances would be beyond acquisition of more resources or colonization as far as motivation goes. They may simply be looking to learn about us. If they were seeking resources or colonization, they would just do it, nothing we could do could stop them.
 

YJ02

Well Known GateFan
I'm assuming that anyone who has mastered the skills and energies required to traverse interstellar distances would be beyond acquisition of more resources or colonization as far as motivation goes. They may simply be looking to learn about us. If they were seeking resources or colonization, they would just do it, nothing we could do could stop them.

Now that is an interesting angle....

but I am guessing they caught some deep space signals of our "wraslin" shows and made a galactic beeline for our blue marble

that or HONEY BOO BOO
:smiley-laughing011:
 

Overmind One

GateFans Gatemaster
Staff member
I'm assuming that anyone who has mastered the skills and energies required to traverse interstellar distances would be beyond acquisition of more resources or colonization as far as motivation goes. They may simply be looking to learn about us. If they were seeking resources or colonization, they would just do it, nothing we could do could stop them.

We always assume that aliens coming here would be far more advanced than us in many ways, and they probably would be since we cannot yet travel between the stars. But what if we were dealing with a race of aliens who arrived in a generational ship from a dying planet and had only the level of technology we have now> Our probes which have been launched are toys compared to what we have now, but they can and will enter other star systems eventually. I think that nuclear weapons are badass even to an advanced race. They are the energy of a star, and would get respect from any alien race.

I just do not see curiosity as being enough of a reason to commit such resources. We are doing it to seek resources and colonization, not for science (despite how it is being packaged).
 

YJ02

Well Known GateFan
We always assume that aliens coming here would be far more advanced than us in many ways, and they probably would be since we cannot yet travel between the stars. But what if we were dealing with a race of aliens who arrived in a generational ship from a dying planet and had only the level of technology we have now> Our probes which have been launched are toys compared to what we have now, but they can and will enter other star systems eventually. I think that nuclear weapons are badass even to an advanced race. They are the energy of a star, and would get respect from any alien race.

I just do not see curiosity as being enough of a reason to commit such resources. We are doing it to seek resources and colonization, not for science (despite how it is being packaged).


and-if there are alien races, are we the only ones dumb enough to use that "energy of a star" as a weapon?

atomic energy once had a bright future

remember the promise of atomic buses and trains? planes? and the idea of a mini nuke reactor for your own home power?

of course with the obvious issues of safety and waste aside, what ever happened to those dreams? i think that if a company were to put even a quarter of the money spent on nuke weapons R&D, they could have come up with a way to have made those ideas a safe reality

but then of course, big oil would have had to have let their "horses and buggies" die out for that to happen
 

Tripler

Well Known GateFan
Check this out . I'm watching this on Netflix and look what’s hovering in the background . Watch it and you'll see it too !!! Is that what I think it is ?
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