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[YJ02]

'scientific' stuff thread

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http://www.inquisitr.com/1625693/ph...ncient-nuclear-explosions-ended-life-on-mars/

 

[Jim of WVa]

Nuclear explosions do happen naturally:

 

[YJ02]

I believe the good physicist is saying he has evidence for an
"orbital bombardment" inferring that martian sites were intentionally bombed by other martians

of course, he could be right, that whole broken clock thing and all

 

[shavedape]

The dude positing the theory about Mars nuclear detonations is a crackpot. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that a planet that has a very thin atmosphere coupled with a lack of a magnetic field; a planet that has been bombarded for millions of years by asteroids and meteors and comets and unfiltered solar winds would appear as if it's had a nuclear explosion or two. This stuff is worse than the von Daniken nonsense.

 

[Jim of WVa]

The dude positing the theory about Mars nuclear detonations is a crackpot.

No shit.

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that a planet that has a very thin atmosphere coupled with a lack of a magnetic magnetic field; a planet that has been bombarded for millions of years by asteroids and meteors and comets and unfiltered solar winds would appear as if it's had a nuclear explosion or two.

Nuclear reactions can take place without human (or space alien) intervention. Even the quoted Wikipedia article mentioned that a natural fission reaction may have taken place on Mars.

This stuff is worse than the von Daniken nonsense.

Anytime space aliens are postulated, then it becomes the same thing as the von Daniken nonsense.

 

[Jim of WVa]

This paper does not mention space aliens:

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2011/pdf/1097.pdf

 

[shavedape]

Nuclear reactions can take place without human (or space alien) intervention. Even the quoted Wikipedia article mentioned that a natural fission reaction may have taken place on Mars.

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I'm not arguing that nuclear reactions don't happen in nature, they do as evinced by the fact that our sun exists and is essentially a natural nuclear reactor. I take issue with this guy's assertion that there were nuclear bombs detonated on the surface of Mars though. That's just stupid.

 

[Overmind One]

Nuclear explosions do happen naturally:

That is not really accurate....nuclear fission happens naturally, which is believed to be the source of much of the heat in the interiors of planets (due to the heavier radioactive elements). The fission reaction naturally taking place in Gabon has been going on for millenia, in a stable fashion without explosions.

Nuclear explosions must come from a critical mass brought together suddenly to trigger fission explosions. Fission of naturally occurring Uranium (or other radioactive elements) never reaches the critical mass necessary for an explosion.

 

[Overmind One]

The dude positing the theory about Mars nuclear detonations is a crackpot. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that a planet that has a very thin atmosphere coupled with a lack of a magnetic field; a planet that has been bombarded for millions of years by asteroids and meteors and comets and unfiltered solar winds would appear as if it's had a nuclear explosion or two. This stuff is worse than the von Daniken nonsense.

Lots of morons like that guy dont put things together. It falls into the same category as UFOs visiting earth, but only appearing to idiots out in the boonies or in isolated areas in the third world. WHY would a civilization capable of interstellar space travel do that? They would go to the most populous areas and initiate contact. For there to have been an atomic war on Mars, there would have had to been civilizations...and wars between them. Makes no sense whatsoever. I wont even get started on Von Daniken.

 

[Bluce Ree]

Lots of morons like that guy dont put things together. It falls into the same category as UFOs visiting earth, but only appearing to idiots out in the boonies or in isolated areas in the third world. WHY would a civilization capable of interstellar space travel do that?

Because they are as fascinated by the existence of rednecks as we are.

 

[YJ02]

Because they are as fascinated by the existence of rednecks as we are.

Funny if they (the aliens if they did exist) took our favorite rednecks as being at the top of our society

and could we blame them? especially if they were monitoring our mass media communications? they may thing k the Robertsons were planetary leaders!

they might then invade immediately on "humanitarian grounds" of saving the rest of us from the idiots

 

[Bluce Ree]

Funny if they (the aliens if they did exist) took our favorite rednecks as being at the top of our society

On the contrary, I strongly believe they're interested in knowing how, exactly, such a low form of mentally challenged, backward human being with barely the skill to tie a shoe while simultaneously breathing has been able to survive and propagate for so long.

 

[Jim of WVa]

On the contrary, I strongly believe they're interested in knowing how, exactly, such a low form of mentally challenged, backward human being with barely the skill to tie a shoe while simultaneously breathing has been able to survive and propagate for so long.

If you are unwilling to compare the IQ test results of real hillbillies and real Ferguson rioters (not the protesters), then STFU.

 

[Backstep]

If you are unwilling to compare the IQ test results of real hillbillies and real Ferguson rioters (not the protesters), then STFU.

By your own admission, you advise people to take multiple IQ tests to pad your score and game the system, how about a metric that doesn't allow gaming the system.

I can see you screaming from the hill tops is the blacks and browns started to game the system in the same way you advise.

On second thought, may be we should get black and brown parents to game the system in the same way whites do, then will the flawed IQ test be abandon for a better non bias test.

 

[Jim of WVa]

By your own admission, you advise people to take multiple IQ test to pad your score and game the system, how about a metric that doesn't allow gaming the system.

I would allow all (rednecks and rioters) to take the test multiple times (same number for each group).

 

[Backstep]

I would allow all (rednecks and rioters) to take the test multiple times (same number for each group).

Then the test results come down to memory not intelligence.

 

[YJ02]

On the contrary, I strongly believe they're interested in knowing how, exactly, such a low form of mentally challenged, backward human being with barely the skill to tie a shoe while simultaneously breathing has been able to survive and propagate for so long.

our tech and modern ways have long been adapted by those who would have otherwise long ago failed the test of natural selection

 

[Jim of WVa]

Then the test results come down to memory not intelligence.

Memory is one aspect of intelligence.

 

[Overmind One]

Memory is one aspect of intelligence.

Yes, and memory CAN be tested very accurately. Things left out of the Eurocentric IQ test are visual and auditory acuity, reflexes and the ability to reproduce patterns and tones from a given set of either...those are aspects of intelligence as well. Most non-European groups excel at those abilities.

 

[Jim of WVa]

Yes, and memory CAN be tested very accurately. Things left out of the Eurocentric IQ test are visual and auditory acuity, reflexes and the ability to reproduce patterns and tones from a given set of either...those are aspects of intelligence as well. Most non-European groups excel at those abilities.

No, they are not. IQ tests are Eurasian-centric because intelligence is Eurasian-centric. Mathematics and science are Eurasian-centric.