Richard III found!

[shavedape]

I'm kind of surprised no one has mentioned this story yet. It's quite fascinating because even though he died in 1485 there's still debate as to whether King Richard III was a villain or a good guy. The prevailing belief is that he had his nephews, the princes in line for the throne, killed so he could take the crown. They disappeared without a trace and their bodies have never been found so there's always been a question as to what happened (although I think the answer is glaringly obvious).

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/03/world/europe/richard-iii-search-announcement/index.html

Leicester, England (CNN) -- DNA tests have confirmed that human remains found buried beneath an English car park are those of the country's King Richard III. British scientists announced Monday they are convinced "beyond reasonable doubt" that a skeleton found during an archaeological dig in Leicester, central England, last August is that of the former king, who was killed at the Battle of Bosworth Field in 1485.

Mitochondrial DNA extracted from the bones was matched to Michael Ibsen, a Canadian cabinetmaker and direct descendant of Richard III's sister, Anne of York, and a second distant relative, who wishes to remain anonymous.

Experts say other evidence -- including battle wounds and signs of scoliosis, or curvature of the spine -- found during the search and the more than four months of tests since strongly support the DNA findings -- and suggest that history's view of the king as a hunchbacked villain may have to be rewritten.

 

[OMNI]

was in yesterdays paper. kinda neat.

 

[Rac80]

I have been following this story quite avidly. (history buff that I am) It was fascinating to see his full skeleton- he had scolosis- so he wasn't the hunchbacked dwarf shakespeare wrote of but he was deformed in an age which beleived deformity was a sign of evil. http://news.msn.com/world/experts-weve-found-englands-king-richard-iii?ocid=ansnow11

actually ape - skeletons beleived to be that of the princes in the tower were found in a reconstruction of the White Tower in 1674, sir christopher wren was asked to design a white marble coffin and the bones now reside under a white and black marble altar inscribed in their honor in westminster abbey. In 1933, George V allowed the bones to be examined...found among all sorts of animal bones were two incomplete skeletons of children. the height and maturity level of the children correspond to the princes, forensic evidence determined the older child had a chronic inflammation of the lower jaw consistant with reports of the doctor who attended Edward V before his imprisonment. Extensive pictures and reports were made in 1933, but neither westminster abbey nor the royal family will allow the bones to be disturbed again. May I suggest Allison Weir's The Princes in the Tower - it is well written and very informative- not a "faction" book- but real historical research!

 

[Rac80]

It's time to rebury a king! there has been controversy about where and how Richard III will be reinterred- Leicester Cathedral is the site and it appearrs both Anglican and Roman Catholic services will be held. Remember he was known as a devout Catholic at the time. the process begins today.


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/richard-iii-reburial-celebration-starts-sunday/ar-BBiy99h

 

[Jim of WVa]

It's time to rebury a king! there has been controversy about where and how Richard III will be reinterred- Leicester Cathedral is the site and it appearrs both Anglican and Roman Catholic services will be held. Remember he was known as a devout Catholic at the time. the process begins today.


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/richard-iii-reburial-celebration-starts-sunday/ar-BBiy99h

The Anglican church treats pre-Reformation saints and kings as their own. Indeed, the papacy of the 15th century allowed some differences in the operations of the individual state churches that made up the Roman Catholic church. The concept of a monolithic Roman Catholic church was a product of the reforms started with the Council of Trent.

 

[Rac80]

don't forget he was known to burn a heretic or two - but he's been dead over 500 years so does it matter?