ROTFLMAOPIMP!!!

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[Overmind One]

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Um, yeah they effed up! Why did it take so long for them to admit it?

 

[shavedape]

I love how in the comments section there is immediately someone whining about bringing SGU back. Dude needs to get a life!

 

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I love how in the comments section there is immediately someone whining about bringing SGU back. Dude needs to get a life!

I heard someone opining about SGU the other day at the writers' conference.

I think it was wise that I kept my mouth shut.

 

[Overmind One]

Did you see this?

And now, Syfy says that perceptions of science fiction and other genre entertainment have changed, but it's important to note that other than the BSG reboot, which ended in 2009, Syfy didn't have much of a hand in that.

"We saw an explosion of sci-fi/fantasy content across every cable and broadcast network out there," said Syfy president Dave Howe. "Perceptions of the genre have shifted dramatically. What that speaks to is an opportunity to re-own the genre and be at the forefront of high-end buzzy, provocative storytelling — and the epiphany of that was Battlestar."

. I absolutely HATE that Syfy sees NuBSG as some sort of "epiphany". HUH? It started out good, then it got drunk and stumbled out with a whimper. The ratings were mediocre and the story turned into mush. It did not even end well! If they are putting that thing on the throne and designing their future around it, that is not saying much!

 

[Rac80]

LOL don't you all know that "many" consider SGPoo and NuBSG the pinnacle of syfy tv?

 

[shavedape]

. I absolutely HATE that Syfy sees NuBSG as some sort of "epiphany". HUH? It started out good, then it got drunk and stumbled out with a whimper. The ratings were mediocre and the story turned into mush. It did not even end well! If they are putting that thing on the throne and designing their future around it, that is not saying much!

I think the folks at SyFy were surprised by the initial response to nuBSG but now are stuck on it as a template because their limited minds can't think of anything else. So like good little chimps they keep churning out retreads of this same garbage.

 

[Overmind One]

I think the folks at SyFy were surprised by the initial response to nuBSG but now are stuck on it as a template because their limited minds can't think of anything else. So like good little chimps they keep churning out retreads of this same garbage.

Why cant they see that it was this "epiphany" of designing drama shows in space established by NuBSG is what spawned all the utter crap we have they are trying to call science fiction now? If NuBSG was so great, why didnt it perform in the ratings? The ratings were dismal compared to Stargate Atlantis, SG-1, Firefly, etc. It was not a success ratings wise, nor has it's demise stimulated a fan following. The pinnacle of TV science fiction is Star Trek, followed by Stargate. Those two foundations have spawned decades worth of material, several spinoff/sequel shows, as well as a huge and still growing fanbase which supports conventions. Where are the throngs of fans for NuBSG? Who is going as a character from NuBSG for Halloween?

Syfy and particularly Bonnie Hammer has NO experience with real science fiction, and neither do most critics. They know drama. They are going by the critical reception of NuBSG (wow, science fiction I can get into!). It reminds me of the demise of respectability for the Academy (and the rise of the People's Choice Awards) because they lavish praise on stuff THEY like and ignore the audience preferences. I have a good mind to write an op-ed Open Letter to Syfy on the blog.

 

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Why cant they see that it was this "epiphany" of designing drama shows in space established by NuBSG is what spawned all the utter crap we have they are trying to call science fiction now? If NuBSG was so great, why didnt it perform in the ratings? The ratings were dismal compared to Stargate Atlantis, SG-1, Firefly, etc. It was not a success ratings wise, nor has it's demise stimulated a fan following. The pinnacle of TV science fiction is Star Trek, followed by Stargate. Those two foundations have spawned decades worth of material, several spinoff/sequel shows, as well as a huge and still growing fanbase which supports conventions. Where are the throngs of fans for NuBSG? Who is going as a character from NuBSG for Halloween?

Syfy and particularly Bonnie Hammer has NO experience with real science fiction, and neither do most critics. They know drama. They are going by the critical reception of NuBSG (wow, science fiction I can get into!). It reminds me of the demise of respectability for the Academy (and the rise of the People's Choice Awards) because they lavish praise on stuff THEY like and ignore the audience preferences. I have a good mind to write an op-ed Open Letter to Syfy on the blog.

SyFy is doubling down on their commitment to all things soap-fi as witnessed by their "renewal" of DEFECATION and the continuation of Dumbinion. They have clearly turned a deaf ear to any criticism of their programming choices because they are financially tied to this course they have chosen. For them to cancel these lousy shows and move on to producing/airing actual scifi shows would be admitting defeat and would leave these shows without any revenue being generated. As it is we all know they have developed this fake multi-season template for all these new shows as a way to pretend that these productions are successful. Doing this can, marginally, help their bottom line. But you can't fake reality forever and eventually the chickens come home to roost.

 

[Overmind One]

SyFy is doubling down on their commitment to all things soap-fi as witnessed by their "renewal" of DEFECATION and the continuation of Dumbinion. They have clearly turned a deaf ear to any criticism of their programming choices because they are financially tied to this course they have chosen. For them to cancel these lousy shows and move on to producing/airing actual scifi shows would be admitting defeat and would leave these shows without any revenue being generated. As it is we all know they have developed this fake multi-season template for all these new shows as a way to pretend that these productions are successful. Doing this can, marginally, help their bottom line. But you can't fake reality forever and eventually the chickens come home to roost.

Yes, definitely an Op-ed will be written on the blog here this weekend.

 

[YJ02]

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the new shows read as if they may be good, but.....
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10/28/14 4:03pm

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  Hey Syfy, bring back SGU and all is forgiven.

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TweedleDumHickory
10/28/14 4:19pm

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  seriously they ended that show on the worst cliffhanger possible. Just one more episode would have been better.

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divuthenHickory
10/28/14 5:05pm

• Yeah I refuse to watch sci-fi until they bring back SGU. I also refuse to acknowledge their ridiculous name change.

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AeronPerytonHickory
10/28/14 5:25pm

• Probably too late to corral the original cast back together. A new StarGate series that is not a reboot or a prequel would be nice. During the end of SG-1 I was silently hopeful for an SG-2 series, with Teal'c as the team leader.

 

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There are still people out there who hope and pray for a renewal of Jericho, so none of this really surprises me in the least.

 

[Overmind One]

the new shows read as if they may be good, but.....
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check out some of the posts in the comments

funny

10/28/14 4:03pm

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  Hey Syfy, bring back SGU and all is forgiven.

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TweedleDum
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TweedleDumHickory
10/28/14 4:19pm

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  seriously they ended that show on the worst cliffhanger possible. Just one more episode would have been better.

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divuthenHickory
10/28/14 5:05pm

• Yeah I refuse to watch sci-fi until they bring back SGU. I also refuse to acknowledge their ridiculous name change.

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AeronPerytonHickory
10/28/14 5:25pm

• Probably too late to corral the original cast back together. A new StarGate series that is not a reboot or a prequel would be nice. During the end of SG-1 I was silently hopeful for an SG-2 series, with Teal'c as the team leader.

See, we watched SGU. It isnt like we are just hating on it because it wasnt like SG-1 or Atlantis, we watched the bad acting, the bad writing and direction, and we experienced bad shaky cam and pathetic lighting. We watched them receive a paid-for Canadian award for an episode that had a car passing in the background of an uninhabited planet billions of light years away (omg...chuckle ). We had our eyes roll uncontrollably as entire episodes were devoted to tripe such as baby showers and long lingering shots of dark corridors. We watched them castrate the Jack and eviscerate Samantha Carter characters to make them fit into the dark brooding SGU.

And most of all we watched the ratings plummet faster than many shows. How can anyone justify it's return?

 

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See, we watched SGU. It isnt like we are just hating on it because it wasnt like SG-1 or Atlantis, we watched the bad acting, the bad writing and direction, and we experienced bad shaky cam and pathetic lighting. We watched them receive a paid-for Canadian award for an episode that had a car passing in the background of an uninhabited planet billions of light years away (omg...chuckle ). We had our eyes roll uncontrollably as entire episodes were devoted to tripe such as baby showers and long lingering shots of dark corridors. We watched them castrate the Jack and eviscerate Samantha Carter characters to make them fit into the dark brooding SGU.

And most of all we watched the ratings plummet faster than many shows. How can anyone justify it's return?

There will always be crazed fans who can't see the forest for the trees.

There are those who believe that if Firefly was given the chance to come back to air a full season, that the actors would jump at the chance. The problem is that most of them already have new jobs and wouldn't be in a position to come back, contractually. The same is true of Jericho fans, Veronica Mars fans, Almost Human fans, Fringe fans, etc.

 

[Overmind One]

There will always be crazed fans who can't see the forest for the trees.

There are those who believe that if Firefly was given the chance to come back to air a full season, that the actors would jump at the chance. The problem is that most of them already have new jobs and wouldn't be in a position to come back, contractually. The same is true of Jericho fans, Veronica Mars fans, Almost Human fans, Fringe fans, etc.

Yep, and Firefly can be done with different actors as can Stargate and Star Trek and most any truly well written science fiction show. But people obsess on specific actors playing their roles past their prime. Look at what happened to James T Kirk!.

 

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Yep, and Firefly can be done with different actors as can Stargate and Star Trek and most any truly well written science fiction show. But people obsess on specific actors playing their roles past their prime. Look at what happened to James T Kirk!.

Do not even SUGGEST a "reimagined"/"rebooted" Firefly.

While I'm sad to see that Faux canceled it, I wouldn't want to see it come back with different actors. The cast they had made the show work. I wouldn't cotton to a new one.

 

[YJ02]

See, we watched SGU. It isnt like we are just hating on it because it wasnt like SG-1 or Atlantis, we watched the bad acting, the bad writing and direction, and we experienced bad shaky cam and pathetic lighting. We watched them receive a paid-for Canadian award for an episode that had a car passing in the background of an uninhabited planet billions of light years away (omg...chuckle ). We had our eyes roll uncontrollably as entire episodes were devoted to tripe such as baby showers and long lingering shots of dark corridors. We watched them castrate the Jack and eviscerate Samantha Carter characters to make them fit into the dark brooding SGU.

And most of all we watched the ratings plummet faster than many shows. How can anyone justify it's return?

I think its funny that there are still so many pissed off ppl who want the show back!!!

Hell, I liked CAPRICA (save your shit--not the topic here!!! ) but after about a week or so, I got over its being axed

Like Shatner said "Come on ppl, get a life!"

 

[Overmind One]

Do not even SUGGEST a "reimagined"/"rebooted" Firefly.

While I'm sad to see that Faux canceled it, I wouldn't want to see it come back with different actors. The cast they had made the show work. I wouldn't cotton to a new one.

I would like that too, but is it feasible? As much as I loved the original actors, how could they ever be brought back together for a rebooted Firefly? You would even want Summer Glau back in it?

 

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I would like that too, but is it feasible? As much as I loved the original actors, how could they ever be brought back together for a rebooted Firefly? You would even want Summer Glau back in it?

Yes, I would.

If you're going to put on a concert, you need to put the band back together.

 

[Overmind One]

Yes, I would.

If you're going to put on a concert, you need to put the band back together.

Yep, you have a point there. Without the originals, it can never be more than a knockoff.