Hobby Filming? If you are in Los Angeles County (and the cities within), it is illegal.

Overmind One

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Wow. So, if you are filming a "production" (will come back to this) in Los Angeles County, anywhere inside or outside (even in your own home!), you will need a permit to publish it. All permits are handled by an entity called FilmLA and their website is here: http://www.filmla.com/getting_started.php

If you film without a permit and then publish it, your production can be confiscated or shut down during production. So, what is a production? One which has actors, conveys information, sells a product, has dramatic or non-dramatic elements, or even still photos! You can get around this with green screens somewhat. This does not prohibit "personal use". Here is the exact wording copied and pasted:

Laws regarding film permit requirements are established by the jurisdictions that FilmL.A. serves. In the City of Los Angeles, Section 12.22, Subsection 13 of the Los Angeles City Ordinance specifies that a film permit is required for the filming of commercial motion pictures (including television and other like projects) and still photography. Please contact FilmL.A. if you have questions about whether a permit is required for your specific project. Generally speaking, non-commercial filming (personal use) does not require a film permit.

The film industry is locked down tight and is cost prohibitive to even do on your own. The fee for a permit is over $600, and that does not count any additional fees you might have to pay to local authorities for added protection or the ability to detour traffic or pedestrians. Even just standing on the sidewalk without a crew or additional vehicles requires a permit if you intend to shoot the location and use it in something to be published.

The problem is that the definitions of personal and commercial productions differs only when in front of the judge. Most private filmmakers get crushed in court when challenges are brought by a larger film entity or city authorities or even private individuals who get caught in the background but did not consent to being in the video. It is almost case by case.

I thought this was interesting because I really would like to start doing film as a hobby.
 

ecgordon

Star's Hero
Whatever you do, don't film on any railroad tracks. Even with a permit. ;)
 

shavedape

Well Known GateFan
The fee is a bunch of petty crap. What a messed up industry. :rolleye0014:
 

Overmind One

GateFans Gatemaster
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Back to this....I have become VERY interested in compositing video (as a hobby). I have made some 30sec clips of stuff, mostly trying to replicate effects I have seen in Star Trek (like transporters, replicators, phasers, ships in space, shuttle interiors). I am not using any CGI (yet) because I don't know much about how to manipulate 3D models in video. But I have come up with some interesting live action effects. It makes me have new appreciation for the fan stuff out there. Even the most mediocre of them still needed editing, scene setups, proper lighting and sound, etc. Also funny is how easy it is to duplicate effects once seen as advanced in old shows like Bewitched and I Dream of Jeannie. Of course, they were using actual film and manual, physical film editing involving cutting and splicing. :) An average laptop can be used to do way more advanced stuff than whole studios could back in the 1960s and 70s!
 
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Tripler

Well Known GateFan
Wow. So, if you are filming a "production" (will come back to this) in Los Angeles County, anywhere inside or outside (even in your own home!), you will need a permit to publish it. All permits are handled by an entity called FilmLA and their website is here: http://www.filmla.com/getting_started.php

If you film without a permit and then publish it, your production can be confiscated or shut down during production. So, what is a production? One which has actors, conveys information, sells a product, has dramatic or non-dramatic elements, or even still photos! You can get around this with green screens somewhat. This does not prohibit "personal use". Here is the exact wording copied and pasted:

Laws regarding film permit requirements are established by the jurisdictions that FilmL.A. serves. In the City of Los Angeles, Section 12.22, Subsection 13 of the Los Angeles City Ordinance specifies that a film permit is required for the filming of commercial motion pictures (including television and other like projects) and still photography. Please contact FilmL.A. if you have questions about whether a permit is required for your specific project. Generally speaking, non-commercial filming (personal use) does not require a film permit.

The film industry is locked down tight and is cost prohibitive to even do on your own. The fee for a permit is over $600, and that does not count any additional fees you might have to pay to local authorities for added protection or the ability to detour traffic or pedestrians. Even just standing on the sidewalk without a crew or additional vehicles requires a permit if you intend to shoot the location and use it in something to be published.

The problem is that the definitions of personal and commercial productions differs only when in front of the judge. Most private filmmakers get crushed in court when challenges are brought by a larger film entity or city authorities or even private individuals who get caught in the background but did not consent to being in the video. It is almost case by case.

I thought this was interesting because I really would like to start doing film as a hobby.

Wow . My daughters boyfriend has done a bit of work in LA as of late so I wonder if he knows this rule or the people he works with know this rule? . I will pass the info onto them . My daughter still needs to get her passport so she can swan of to Hollyweird now and then for shoots .

;) ;) ;)
 

Overmind One

GateFans Gatemaster
Staff member
Wow . My daughters boyfriend has done a bit of work in LA as of late so I wonder if he knows this rule or the people he works with know this rule? . I will pass the info onto them . My daughter still needs to get her passport so she can swan of to Hollyweird now and then for shoots .

;) ;) ;)

From what I can tell, this is selectively enforced. In other words, you can film the production and take it all the way to a finished product AND publish it privately. But, if you start making real money they will come after you. Sucks, huh?
 

Tripler

Well Known GateFan
Well as far as I know and have seen , my daughter has not made any money that would be considered profit lol . Tough biz to be in so far for her but she loves it so she is stickin to it ...

;) ;) ;)
 
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