Cure for cancer released--really

[YJ02]

This aired on VICE on HBO last friday

this attached vid is the YT debrief not the full ep

Doctors have been using viruses like measles, adenovirus (the cold) and HIV for placing into remission (at a very long term-no one has relapsed yet even after 3 or more yrs) though the medical community is hesitant to say "cure" the results are very impressive

the cancers they "cure" are -in order with above listed viruses- bone cancer, brain cancer and leukemia

no lets wait and see how long the govt delays this and allows so many ppl to continue suffering with old treatments and sickness--does the FDA know how to fast track anything?

 

[shavedape]

Cures are no longer being sought by the medical community and/or big pharma. They only seek to develop treatments. Permanent, on going treatments. Why cure a segment of the population of something when you can put a leash and collar around each of their necks and make them pay for the treatments for the rest of their lives?

 

[Overmind One]

Cures are no longer being sought by the medical community and/or big pharma. They only seek to develop treatments. Permanent, on going treatments. Why cure a segment of the population of something when you can put a leash and collar around each of their necks and make them pay for the treatments for the rest of their lives?

 

[Bluce Ree]

This research goes back to the 90s. The first such treatment I had heard of that showed enormous success was treatment of brain and brain-stem malignant tumors using the Herpes virus. There is nothing new here and there seems to be little movement in advancing this to the public.

At the time, the virus had to be injected directly into the tumor.

They've advanced that treatment now using stem cells to carry HSV to the brain and specifically target the tumors.

http://hsci.harvard.edu/news/herpes-loaded-stem-cells-used-kill-brain-tumors

http://www.genengnews.com/gen-news-...capsulated-herpes-loaded-stem-cells/81249885/

http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/7100/20140517/stem-cells-help-herpes-kill-brain-tumors.htm

 

[Jim of WVa]

Cures are no longer being sought by the medical community and/or big pharma. They only seek to develop treatments. Permanent, on going treatments. Why cure a segment of the population of something when you can put a leash and collar around each of their necks and make them pay for the treatments for the rest of their lives?

I trust Big Pharma more than I do any organized collection of doctors. That being said, Big Pharma seeks to maximize profits at the expense of society. When was the last time a new antibiotic was brought to the market? We are running out of antibiotics to treat weird bacteria that laugh at conventional antibiotics.

 

[Overmind One]

I trust Big Pharma more than I do any organized collection of doctors. That being said, Big Pharma seeks to maximize profits at the expense of society. When was the last time a new antibiotic was brought to the market? We are running out of antibiotics to treat weird bacteria that laugh at conventional antibiotics.

You have to understand that the "weird bacteria" are what is being brought to market first, then the "treatments".

 

[Jim of WVa]

You have to understand that the "weird bacteria" are what is being brought to market first, then the "treatments".

Liars go to hell. Revelation 21:8.

 

[Overmind One]

Liars go to hell. Revelation 21:8.

I wonder what happened to the MEN who wrote revelation? They were liars too.

 

[Joelist]

Jim,

Your last remark made no sense. Leaving aside any issue of whether John the Apostle was a liar (I do not believe he was), the remark had literally nothing to do with the topic.

If you think the assertion that pharma companies are introducing bacterium so they can treat them to be untrue, a better approach would be to present evidence instead of throwing fairly random provocative remarks around.

 

[Jim of WVa]

Jim,

Your last remark made no sense. Leaving aside any issue of whether John the Apostle was a liar (I do not believe he was), the remark had literally nothing to do with the topic.

If you think the assertion that pharma companies are introducing bacterium so they can treat them to be untrue, a better approach would be to present evidence instead of throwing fairly random provocative remarks around.

I was not 100% serious when I posted that. I do not believe that OM1 was posting anything that he did not sincerely believe.

I cannot prove that Big Pharma is not creating antibiotic resistant bacteria to increase their profits. OM1 cannot prove that they are. If they were, they would not tell OM1 or announce it on the internet.

Big Pharma makes products that I use. I have Type II Diabetes. Those products are useful to me. The advice that I have been getting lately from doctors have been less than useful.

 

[YJ02]

Cures are no longer being sought by the medical community and/or big pharma. They only seek to develop treatments. Permanent, on going treatments. Why cure a segment of the population of something when you can put a leash and collar around each of their necks and make them pay for the treatments for the rest of their lives?

watch the full doc, there are a couple of big pharma companies or are salivating for FDA greenlight to begin selling this stuff

these treatments" remitters/ "cures" use live viruses--something big pharma sells through things like vaccines. this new method also uses DNA profiling to adapt the virus for action for the specific person--DNA manipulation is also something that is already big business.

 

[YJ02]

This research goes back to the 90s. The first such treatment I had heard of that showed enormous success was treatment of brain and brain-stem malignant tumors using the Herpes virus. There is nothing new here and there seems to be little movement in advancing this to the public.

At the time, the virus had to be injected directly into the tumor.

They've advanced that treatment now using stem cells to carry HSV to the brain and specifically target the tumors.

http://hsci.harvard.edu/news/herpes-loaded-stem-cells-used-kill-brain-tumors

http://www.genengnews.com/gen-news-...capsulated-herpes-loaded-stem-cells/81249885/

http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/7100/20140517/stem-cells-help-herpes-kill-brain-tumors.htm

yes, that was stated in the remarks of the site

i think it is just that these three profiled hospitals are making the most "noise" the most recently, thats all

 

[Overmind One]

I was not 100% serious when I posted that. I do not believe that OM1 was posting anything that he did not sincerely believe.

I cannot prove that Big Pharma is not creating antibiotic resistant bacteria to increase their profits. OM1 cannot prove that they are. If they were, they would not tell OM1 or announce it on the internet.

Big Pharma makes products that I use. I have Type II Diabetes. Those products are useful to me. The advice that I have been getting lately from doctors have been less than useful.

Type II diabetes can be reversed by changing your diet and taking NO medicine. I myself reversed the Type II precursors which would have made me a Type II diabetic, just by reducing my carb intake and losing weight. I do not know if the "super bugs" are being engineered, but it would not at all surprise me if they were. They can easily do it. And they can sell you the "treatment", never a cure.

 

[Joelist]

Well if we're talking about super bugs.....

 

[Overmind One]

Well if we're talking about super bugs.....

I have seen that movie literally over 100 times. My dad and I used to watch it together sometimes, and it played at the Drive-In we would go to as a bonus feature. Back in 1968, you could get TWO movies plus cartoons and a newsreel for about 75cents. Popcorn was only 10cents, and a big Snickers was only a quarter.

them....Them....THEM!

 

[Jim of WVa]

Type II diabetes can be reversed by changing your diet and taking NO medicine. I myself reversed the Type II precursors which would have made me a Type II diabetic, just by reducing my carb intake and losing weight. I do not know if the "super bugs" are being engineered, but it would not at all surprise me if they were. They can easily do it. And they can sell you the "treatment", never a cure.

I know better.

 

[Overmind One]

I know better.

Evidently not. You still have Type II diabetes and you are paying for merely a "treatment" which will never cure you. Unlike Type I diabetes where the body does not produce insulin, Type II is the result of an imbalance, and is entirely reversible. The question is not whether it can be reversed, the question is HOW to reverse it. It can be done with dietary changes (since that is what caused the condition in the first place), or with medicines which only alleviate symptoms but never cure the patient. You dont know better.

 

[Jim of WVa]

Evidently not. You still have Type II diabetes and you are paying for merely a "treatment" which will never cure you. Unlike Type I diabetes where the body does not produce insulin, Type II is the result of an imbalance, and is entirely reversible. The question is not whether it can be reversed, the question is HOW to reverse it. It can be done with dietary changes (since that is what caused the condition in the first place), or with medicines which only alleviate symptoms but never cure the patient. You dont know better.

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Type II diabetics who have weight loss surgery find initially that their diabetes goes away. The diabetes goes away before they lose much weight. However, in a couple of years, after a great deal of weight loss, the diabetes returns. This is not to say that diabetes is not easier to control after some weight loss, but those who expect a cure will be mistaken.

 

[Overmind One]

Type II diabetics who have weight loss surgery find initially that their diabetes goes away. The diabetes goes away before they lose much weight. However, in a couple of years, after a great deal of weight loss, the diabetes returns. This is not to say that diabetes is not easier to control after some weight loss, but those who expect a cure will be mistaken.

I had all of the pre-diabetic conditions and I would be a Type II diabetic today if I had not taken steps to change my diet and lose the weight. Today, I have normal blood sugar levels, normal blood pressure and have none of the pre-diabetic conditions. Others I met in the Atkins support groups I used to go to were diabetics when they started Atkins, and their diabetes was reversed when their weights normalized.

Obesity/high carb intake = pre-diabetic/Type II diabetic

Weight loss surgery is cheating. Removing accumulated fat via surgery is not the same as forcing the body to burn it off. The process which you take when losing weight involves changing the WAY you eat as well as WHAT you eat, plus exercise and increased water intake. What you are missing is that the patient is the source of the cure, not surgery or a doctor. You should look to nutrition to solve the problem that was initially caused by poor nutrition in the first place.

Your medications are never going to cure your diabetes.

 

[Jim of WVa]

I had all of the pre-diabetic conditions and I would be a Type II diabetic today if I had not taken steps to change my diet and lose the weight. Today, I have normal blood sugar levels, normal blood pressure and have none of the pre-diabetic conditions. Others I met in the Atkins support groups I used to go to were diabetics when they started Atkins, and their diabetes was reversed when their weights normalized.

Obesity/high carb intake = pre-diabetic/Type II diabetic

Weight loss surgery is cheating. Removing accumulated fat via surgery is not the same as forcing the body to burn it off. The process which you take when losing weight involves changing the WAY you eat as well as WHAT you eat, plus exercise and increased water intake. What you are missing is that the patient is the source of the cure, not surgery or a doctor. You should look to nutrition to solve the problem was initially caused by poor nutrition in the first place.

Your medications are never going to cure your diabetes.

Weight loss surgery is not liposuction. Weight loss surgery is giving someone a much smaller stomach. Weight loss is achieved by eating less food.