Star Trek Discovery SUCKS.
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heisenberg
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They have not given the figures... I wonder why...? This is so vague.
http://investors.cbscorporation.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=99462&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=2314021
The bottom line is still lower no matter how they have broken it down and how many sentences they have inserted between the numbers.
In the prior paragraph, they said this first: "Revenues for the third quarter of 2017 increased 3% to $3.17 billion from $3.08 billion for the same prior-year period.", But they are not talking about CBS All Access, they are talking about CBS in general. Star Trek Discovery is not their #1 show, nor was it #1 when it first aired nor is it responsible for any growth of REVENUE. The rest of it only talks about revenue and not viewership. If you have 100 people watching a show at $1.00 each for the fee, that is not the same as having only 25 people watching the same show paying $2.50 each. Yeah, the revenue is the same but the viewership is 1/4 of 100. They correctly attribute the growth to sporting events and affiliate stations and raising the fees for other sectors. I am not seeing anything here which points to the success of Star Trek Discovery.They are only going to be able to keep this show going if there is growth in subscriber revenue (more people), or a raise in price. And they will have to keep it up.
That is just not going to happen. There will continue to be spin and shills, but it still boils down to viewership and subscribers to All Access.
Breaking it down. First of all, understand that CBS All Access falls under the "Entertainment" section of the revenue tables, not Cable Networks. Looking at that, we see a net decrease over last year:
Now let's look at the other indicators. Advertising revenue is down. Content licensing and distribution is also down. The increased revenue for the quarter is 100% because of Affiliate fees and subscription fees (not CBS All Access). Content licensing covers the licensing of Trek merchandise, as well as licensing CBS stuff to be played on the affiliate stations or elements used in other productions.
So, it's still a pig. Of course, few if any of the shills or squeedrones are going to bother thinking about any of these numbers. When is the next 'splosion?
First of all, understand that CBS All Access falls under the "Entertainment" section of the revenue tables, not Cable Networks. Looking at that, we see a net decrease over last year:Now let's look at the other indicators. Advertising revenue is down. Content licensing and distribution is also down. The increased revenue for the quarter is 100% because of Affiliate fees and subscription fees (not CBS All Access). Content licensing covers the licensing of Trek merchandise, as well as licensing CBS stuff to be played on the affiliate stations or elements used in other productions.
So, it's still a pig. Of course, few if any of the shills or squeedrones are going to bother thinking about any of these numbers. When is the next 'splosion?
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How many episodes are there of Delivery anyway? Is it 8? So, I have watched 3.5 episodes of it. It isn't getting any better, and I still would not trust Michael Burnham at the dinner table with a steak knife, fork or even a sharp steak bone. It's unwatchable as a series. That last episode with the disco was just lol.
heisenberg
Earl Grey
It's 9 apparently and then a hiatus till Jan. Don't bother with discovery. It sucks. It's really, really bad but apparently they are preping up season 2.
https://trekmovie.com/2017/11/05/sh...rek-discovery-season-2-to-begin-in-two-weeks/
heisenberg
Earl Grey
It won't stop them from destroying Trek though.Breaking it down.
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Now let's look at the other indicators. Advertising revenue is down. Content licensing and distribution is also down. The increased revenue for the quarter is 100% because of Affiliate fees and subscription fees (not CBS All Access). Content licensing covers the licensing of Trek merchandise, as well as licensing CBS stuff to be played on the affiliate stations or elements used in other productions.
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So, it's still a pig. Of course, few if any of the shills or squeedrones are going to bother thinking about any of these numbers. When is the next 'splosion?
Yep, I can't remember how many episodes we still get in Season 1, but yes they must be prepping for Season 2 since they got a greenlight. Perhaps they will send a spy over to the Orville to see what their Season 2 will be?
(I know, off-topic). As far as Discovery, nah, I am already done with it. I am not even interested in torrenting it. But all the episodes are on Kodi if I want to watch them.Oh, that was done in 2009 already! It's a shame that these showrunners don't get Star Trek or care about getting it. They literally have millions upon millions to do it. Fan productions with less than $10,000 are doing real Star Trek. Star Trek Continues did Star Trek TOS for cheap. These showrunners still think it's only about the characters.
heisenberg
Earl Grey
It's mainly down to old age. The lack of general apathy comes with old age after you've become successful because you don't want to help out others anymore. The Gritty stuff is in your face and provocative and it seems to sell. It's the same tactics used by sensationalist news and the media. This is generally where the whole world is moving towards.Yep, I can't remember how many episodes we still get in Season 1, but yes they must be prepping for Season 2 since they got a greenlight. Perhaps they will send a spy over to the Orville to see what their Season 2 will be?
Oh, that was done in 2009 already! It's a shame that these showrunners don't get Star Trek or care about getting it. They literally have millions upon millions to do it. Fan productions with less than $10,000 are doing real Star Trek. Star Trek Continues did Star Trek TOS for cheap. These showrunners still think it's only about the characters.
This generation appears to have flipped that narrative. They are all mostly apathetic, sitting back and allowing themselves to be programmed like when one installs apps on their phone. They spend more than 90% of their time being the passive (yet captive) audiences who are willing to give the money they have to others simply because they have been tricked. There is nothing gritty or provocative about Star Trek Discovery. A truly "gritty" Star Trek would have come out more like The Expanse did, rather than say...BSG (in my opinion, of course.
). The three Kelvin movies perfectly illustrate what I have said. The first movie is full of so much stupid! But the cast they chose to portray the TOS characters was superb. The movie itself sucked, and the Trek universe was destroyed. Then movies 2 and 3 doubled down on the stupid. Now, we have a series doing stupid on a weekly basis.This show sucks because it is a cuckoo egg laid in the nest of Star Trek. It admittedly dumps everything that makes Star Trek what it is, and tries to sub out science for fantasy spores, and sub out exploration for explosions. There is no meaningful dialogue or connection to events.
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heisenberg
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Actually, that has been the notion since the beginning of time. To throw a blanket statement like that is extremely prejudice.This generation appears to have flipped that narrative. They are all mostly apathetic, sitting back and allowing themselves to be programmed like when one installs apps on their phone. They spend more than 90% of their time being the passive (yet captive) audiences who are willing to give the money they have to others simply because they have been tricked. There is nothing gritty or provocative about Star Trek Discovery. A truly "gritty" Star Trek would have come out more like The Expanse did, rather than say...BSG (in my opinion, of course.
People used to believe that blood letting would cure them of their ailments. People(still) believe that is an imaginary being in the sky. People(still) believe that their tax dollars is being used wisely. Not to get political, but you get the idea. Stupidity has been around since the dawn of time. It's just gotten more focused. At least with the Kelvin movies, you actually could salvage something, but this is by far the worst thing I have ever seen. The characters/the story and general premise seem extremely sloppy. The only reason why CBS gave this one a greenlit is because they wanted to compete with Star Wars. It's obvious that was the plan. It was to rush this out the door and slap the Star Trek sticker onto it.
It gets worse. The whole cannon has been thrown off. Apparently Klingons now have cloaking technology and are passing it around
. When the hell did this happen? I thought the Romulans had Cloaking technology. It's obvious that these writers just want to shit on the franchise and completely disregard whatever. I am glad that the Orville exist though. Fuck Discovery.
It was only a statement of opinion.
Everyone gets one! Not until around 2008, a VERY large percentage of all people walking on foot are holding their phones to their faces. When you are not doing it, and your phone is in your pocket, you can see everyone around you doing their thing and you see the same thing:Arguably, these people are plugged in even deeper and tighter than when they were only tethered to the construct when in front of a TV set. Now, they are tethered all day. With smartwatches, the phone can be put away and it will still intrude through the alerts on the watch.
I say all that to point out how dependent and pliant this generation appears to be. Things that entertain no longer have to have more than two dimensions. Does it look good on that 4K or HD big screen TV? Does it have a cool soundtrack for sale on iTunes or Google Music? Are the actors and actresses in the movie hot? These are the questions they ask. Watching Discovery in a purely objective way will not make anyone think of Star Trek, unless this is their first Star Trek show.
Seriously, they should have been looking more into something more financially manageable like The Clone Wars or Rebels (animated). If Star Wars ever spins off a TV series, Star Trek is dead for good, because it appears that nobody in the CBS or Paramount wheelhouse seems to be able to do Star Trek anymore. I guess all those people left to board The Orville.
It gets worse. The whole cannon has been thrown off. Apparently Klingons now have cloaking technology and are passing it around
According to canon, the Romulans gave the Klingons the cloaking technology when they were briefly allied. The Romulans invented it. But you are right, this show shits on canon. It does not just ignore it, it intentionally destroys it.
heisenberg
Earl Grey
It was only a statement of opinion.
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Arguably, these people are plugged in even deeper and tighter than when they were only tethered to the construct when in front of a TV set. Now, they are tethered all day. With smartwatches, the phone can be put away and it will still intrude through the alerts on the watch.
We have been plugged in since 00s but we shouldn't see the bad side of technology but the good side. The amazing advancements in tech has made the world a better place.
Nothing wrong with 4k or 8k. Shit does look good but you can't blame tech again for the shit smeared on our faces.
Those things you mentioned has been around since TV started, not sure what point you are trying to make other than passing judgement again. People like to watch shit that looks good which is why Star Wars is so popular(still). The special effects is why star wars is liked by the masses not just the storyline. People had on screen crushes even in the days of the 30s/40s/50s/60s/70s/80s/90s and 00s, so not sure what your point is? Discovery sucks because how much the showrunners lied and they gave us a half assed stupid down series that still has no direction/meaning or purpose. At least with its predecessors, we knew what they were in space for but this has absolutely no plot. It's vague, and the premise and characters suck, easily forgotten.
Seriously, they should have been looking more into something more financially manageable like The Clone Wars or Rebels (animated). If Star Wars ever spins off a TV series, Star Trek is dead for good, because it appears that nobody in the CBS or Paramount wheelhouse seems to be able to do Star Trek anymore. I guess all those people left to board The Orville.
CBS does not own Star wars but what they do have is star trek. They had all the props ready and this series is pretty much risk free. Publicity won't hurt them and they know that. All that can happen is that they can hurt the fanbase. They won't sell the franchise to anyone ever or licence it out.
I know, that's what I mean but in this series, the Klingons are shown to possess the technology first and are distributing it to other alien races.
PussyGalore
Meow
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